Ask An SEO: How To Move From Page 2 To Top Positions via @sejournal, @rollerblader

Today’s Ask an SEO question comes from Roy in Dinajpur:

“My website URL [is] still [in] position No. 15. How can increase to No. 3 or 4?”

Great question, and likely one of the top five that get asked. The answer is situational, and it is easier to resolve when you don’t overthink it.

The first thing to do is to look at the current pages in the top 10 positions and create a list by page of:

  • What they have in common.
  • Talking points and topics they cover.
  • How many internal links that point to these pages.
  • The number of quality and spammy backlinks each page has.
  • On-page factors like HTML structure, schema, and the quality of the content.
  • Content formatting and if they’re presenting the content in the most easy-to-understand and use formats.

I like to do this in spreadsheets because it lets me either assign values from one to 10 and add them up, or see what is missing and what is included across the sites more easily.

If you assign a number for each page with the aspect I’m looking for, I can add the columns and rows up to see how common it is based on the higher number.

If you only use a one (1), meaning it exists on the page, the higher the number, the more pages have it. If rating the quality of content, UX, formatting, sourcing, etc., I assign one to 10.

Once added up across or down, I can see which pages are the best and look at why. From there, I can begin working on my variation and create an even better experience.

Pro-tip: Better experiences may sometimes mean less content, removing specific sections as they may not be topically relevant, or adding in things I didn’t think of but make sense.

But don’t rely on this alone. Go deeper into the features on the pages and within the websites ranking above you, and then look at your own page.

Start To Review Your Own Content Or Page

Now, ask yourself:

  • Do I have the same content or not?
  • Is my content or page sharing something unique or more useful than these?
  • They all have X content, but is it topically relevant to the query I want my page to show up for?
    • If not, delete it so my page is more on-topic.
    • If yes, add it.
  • What could be better explained, or could clearer examples be used that are missing from theirs?
  • Can I easily absorb the text, or would bullets, tables, videos, sound clips, images, and infographics make it better?

These are ways you can begin to create more helpful content on your page. Then, look at some of the other factors that can help. Internal links can be a good place to start.

Where on my website do I reference this topic, product, or service, and will linking to my page help the website visitor?

If these same pages have traffic and backlinks and get social shares, add the internal link. Just make sure it benefits the end user and is not just there for SEO.

Now, look to see if you have conflicting internal links (links to the different pages off of the same keywords and the same intent).

In some cases, backlinks could be a factor, especially with “Your Money of Your Life” (YMYL) and medical queries. What does your page have that the others do not, and how is it more trustworthy than theirs?

You can use this to ask the websites linking to them to include you or replace their links with your resource instead.

Another option is to begin building quality links to your resource, but avoid spammy tactics like mass emailing, guest posting, scholarships, grants, forum and blog comments, PBNs, and link exchanges.

Technical audit and on-page SEO can help you as well. Schema does not help with rankings, but it does help with rich results and lets search engines know what your page is about. Make sure yours is not deprecated and is up to date.

Check your header tags, titles, descriptions, and wording. When doing that, also ensure that your content is around the same reading level and language style as the audience you want to reach.

Look At The Overall Site

Another thing is to consider the site overall.

Having one or two quality pages is good, but what about other topics that work for the same audience and would be interesting for them to read once they finish the page they’re on? This applies to ecommerce, publishers, and everything in between.

Are you using AI and LLMs to create content? You should probably delete that content immediately if you didn’t go in and edit it to have information only a human with experience would know.

If you’re using LLMs to create content, you’re recycling the knowledge already out there versus adding something new. It is the same as scraping four or five sites and using an article spinner to produce the output.

Is there thin content that is also in the category or being recommended? Delete that, too. Same with recommended articles from third parties and ad networks.

Having a couple of good-quality pages is great, but if the person clicks on the next article and it is thin, outdated, or inaccurate, you’re providing a bad experience, and some algorithms may use sitewide classifiers.

Those thin and spammy pages that do not educate and provide solutions impact the high-quality pages.

If all else is equal between you and another site, these low-quality pages could be the deciding factor if your high-quality page makes it to page one and who stays on page two if all else is equal.

The same goes for page and site speed. Yes, they matter, but not that much unless you’re a publisher.

Do Everything Right And You Should Get There

Sometimes, you can do everything right and have the best experience, but Google, Bing, Yahoo, Baidu, or Naver doesn’t bring you up to page one or top positions. Then you magically jump there, as do other pages during a core update.

There’s no one-size-fits-all solution for moving to the top five positions from page two, but by doing everything right, you should eventually make it there.

Fix the issues above and then keep working on it. Eventually, it pays off, and you’ll likely see your site and pages start hitting page one and going to top positions when you’ve fixed enough.

If you’re on page two, that means your page and your site have some quality that is trustworthy.

Now, it’s a matter of fine-tuning that experience so that it can become a page one result. The above tip should help you diagnose what could be better; once done, it’s a waiting game if your experience is already there. I hope this helps.

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Ask An SEO: Should I Point Guest Post Backlinks To Homepages Or Individual Ones? via @sejournal, @rollerblader

This week’s Ask An SEO question comes from Nazim from Islamabad, who asks:

“I have a price comparison/aggregator website with my country’s domain. I want to ask what type of backlinks/guests posts should I have (local/international).

Also, I should build backlinks to my homepage or category/individual pages, too? Besides are (name removed) and (name removed) authentic platforms for backlinks building?”

Great question, Nazim, and happy to help.

I’m breaking the answer into three sections: The first is guest posting in general, then the homepage or category and individual pages, and the last is where to get quality links.

The first two have a TL;DR if you’re short on time. Otherwise, there’s a longer explanation if you want the thoughts or SEO theory behind it.

I’d like to emphasize where to get backlinks before going into the rest of the post.

Where To Get Backlinks

If you want backlinks that can move the needle and build stability, it comes down to quality and natural backlinks. This means the website should:

  • Not list that they allow guest posting or advertorials anywhere (except in the case of mass media as advertorials are clearly marked).
  • Only allow vetted and knowledgeable contributors who are invited to write columns.
  • Have quality control policies in place, including using proper link attributes like “sponsored, nofollow, etc.”
  • Not link to topically irrelevant sites externally, and definitely not the big P’s (porn, payday, pills, personal loans, etc.) unless you’re in those industries.
  • Make it hard to get an actual link (social media, forums, and blog comments allow anyone to post, and many allow links, so they are not earned or hard to get).

You can get quality links from:

  • Local media sites and blogs for local businesses.
  • Industry and trade publications.
  • Niche websites and content creators.
  • National media in directly relevant and non-affiliate sections.
  • PR stunts and events that have direct tie-ins (not scholarships or grants) to your actual products and services (don’t do a surfboarding scholarship and expect to rank long-term).

Guest Posting For Backlinks

TL;DR: Guest posting has its place, but it should not be used to build backlinks because guest posts are not earned.

Guest posting can build trust in you as an expert or brand authority and drive an audience to your website who is interested in the content you produce, the products you sell, or the services you offer.

Guest posting should only be done on topically relevant websites with an active audience, where audience acquisition – not backlinks – is the goal.

When Not To Do Guest Posting

The first thing is that guest posting and link database providers, based on my experience, are red flags SEO-wise and should not be used.

That doesn’t mean good ones don’t exist. Think about it this way.

If you’re using the same systems as everyone else, and it’s the same sites, or there’s a low cost to entry, your links are likely going to be part of a PBN (private blog network, also known as link farms, link wheels, link exchange networks, etc.) or easily mapped network.

The search engines will ignore these links, and you will waste your time and money.  Other times, they could lead to an action against your website because they are not natural.

More importantly, if you can get into or see a list of them, do you think search engines cannot access them?

There are third-party tools like Majestic SEO that database and map these all the time.

If they’re able to find PBNs and guest posting rings as an independent company, Google, Bing, and giant corporations can likely do it at a much larger scale.

If these sites allow themselves to be listed in databases and actively allow guest posting or link selling because they make money from it, they’re likely going to be ignored or eventually cause a manual action for unnatural link building.

Instead, focus on links other sites do not have and that are not part of these systems or platforms.

Getting the links nobody else has from topically relevant websites and genuine non-pay-to-play websites helps move the needle, especially if the site is a trusted authority in your niche.

When To Guest Post

If you decide guest posting is part of your business plan, focus on websites that are topically relevant to your industry and have your users as subscribers.

The website should also have a readership base that comes back at least once a week to read new content that has been published.

Search Engine Journal is a good example.

I do not use it to build backlinks to my blog, but I do contribute because one of the services my marketing agency offers is SEO.

Marketers engage with SEJ’s webinars, podcasts, newsletter blasts, social media, and they check back for new content.

By contributing via the columns, I’m reaching an audience of marketers, which is my target audience.

Some of you also write and ask how to subscribe and get access as I publish new content (thank you, by the way; I let the editorial staff know).

Being a columnist allows me to build trust with the readership who checks back. I don’t do it for backlinks, and I don’t think I’ve ever sourced my site from one of my articles.

If there is a link, it was added by its editors because they thought my resource was high enough quality, and they didn’t have one of their own.

Linking To The Homepage Or A Category Page

TL;DR: Link to your homepage and not a category page.

Categories do not provide more information or value; category page links are used to game the system and work against you. Categories will rank naturally when the rest of the website is trustworthy.

For guest posts and backlinks to feel natural, you should be referencing your own brand and homepage.

The alternate is if you have a resource, and the site you’re pitching does not have an equal one, get the link to your resource as it is original and the only one available.

Longer Explanation

I always recommend homepage links off of the brand when it comes to link building, especially with guest posting.

Being a brand that people search sends a very strong signal you’re an authority to algorithms.

When people search for your site by name, they’ll likely also add modifiers to the query, such as colors, sizes, adjectives, brands, etc.

These modifiers signal why people go to your website.

It could be the best recipe for brownies for health conditions like diabetes, which color of paint makes sense for a contemporary living room, or the right brand of servers and racks are needed for a data center.

These modifiers with your brand let the search engines know that if they want the person searching to keep using their engine, they need to crawl and index more of your website to find the specific page or category their searcher was looking for.

If the search engine only had your homepage indexed, but the person wants a specific product line, the search engine makes their user work harder than other search engines by having users search for the pages.

Here’s an example. If you sell wall paint, and the search engines only had your homepage, they would give that result as people search for your company by name.

Suddenly, the color you developed became the color of the year; now, people are searching for your brand plus the name of the color or the numeric mix to find it.

By not crawling and indexing your site, it cannot surface that specific page, but other search engines do.

If other search engines surface that specific color, they win the user. When more users search because the engine has better results, the search engine can show more ads.

The more ads they show, the more money they make. So, build your brand + modifiers.

When someone adds your brand plus “blue,” “washable,” “kitchen,” and other modifiers, the search engine will know it needs to explore further to keep the searcher coming back.

In the above scenario, winning the award or recognition will naturally build backlinks because your product or service won something of value. The same with the photograph of the year, holiday toy of the year, etc.

There’s a lot more to it, and this is where branding comes into play.

Once you’re a known brand or destination site that consumers trust, there’s a better chance that bloggers, journalists, and others will link to your category, review, blog posts, and comparison pages naturally.

If you do it from a guest post, it may count for a while, but it will also likely backfire, as you are giving yourself a backlink, not something earned.

Linking off of your brand gets that branded search going.

Search engines make their money by selling ad space. They can only sell ad space if users are searching. If they give bad results, fewer people will continue using their search engines, which is why they need to focus on quality.

Guest posting for backlinks is a bad idea.

Yes, it works until you get caught, so if you’re doing it for backlinks, always have a second and third strategy to offset the guest posting links.

If you want to do a churn and burn site where you grow it to sell fast, guest posting and PBNs can be a great strategy for you, but it is at the buyer’s expense who will pay the price.

When you want a website that makes money and generates steady revenue, go with evergreen and quality links instead of gimmicks and easy-to-trace techniques like guest posting.

I hope this helps.

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Ask An SEO: Why Are My Pages Discovered But Not Indexed? via @sejournal, @HelenPollitt1

Today’s Ask An SEO question comes from Mandeep, who is having trouble with indexing on their site.

Mandeep asks:

“We have redesigned a website and we had added a few new pages. Some pages were indexed successfully and some were not.

I tried multiple times on Google but that is not working. Now, while I submit the URL to index, it is showing this error via Google Search Console: Discovered – currently not indexed […]

I have tried everything but nothing is working. Please help me resolve this issue.”

This warning is coming from the “Pages” section of the “Indexing” report in Google Search Console. This report gives users insight into what pages Google has crawled and indexed and the problems it may have encountered doing so.

The report will give details of pages that have been successfully crawled and indexed. It also lists reasons why the pages on the site have not been indexed.

Is It A Problem If A Page Isn’t Indexed?

Most sites have pages that are not indexed. These are oftentimes at the request of the website owner.

For example, a page might be deliberately excluded from the search engine indexes by way of an HTML “noindex” tag on the page, or perhaps it is being blocked from crawling in the robots.txt file.

URLs that have been purposely excluded from indexing will appear within this report, as well as pages with problematic indexing issues.

In general, it can take some time for a new page on a website to be crawled and indexed. A new page taking time to show up among the “indexed” pages on the report is not always a sign of an issue.

Not every reason within the “Why pages aren’t indexed” report needs to be addressed.

Indexing Issues

Google will not crawl and index every URL it finds. Your main concern as a website manager is that the pages that you wish to be available as a search result are indexed.

Essentially, if they are not indexed, they will not be eligible to be a search result.

There are several reasons within the “Why pages aren’t indexed” report that do suggest an issue on the site that should be investigated. For example, “Server error (500)” and “Soft 404.”

These flags may not necessarily be a problem for the individual URLs if they aren’t ones you want to have indexed, but they can indicate a wider issue with the site.

What Is “Discovered – Currently Not Indexed”?

“Discovered – currently not indexed” is an error that Google flags for URLs that it knows about but has not indexed.

What is important to remember is that URLs will not appear in this bucket if they can fit within another in the report.

For example, a page with a noindex tag may technically have been discovered by Google and not indexed, but it would appear in the “Excluded by ‘noindex’ tag” bucket, so pages within the “Discovered – currently not indexed” bucket are there for another reason.

The explanation Google gives for a URL appearing as “Discovered – currently not indexed” is:

“The page was found by Google, but not crawled yet. Typically, Google wanted to crawl the URL but this was expected to overload the site; therefore Google rescheduled the crawl. This is why the last crawl date is empty on the report.”

Google tries to make its bots crawl conscientiously.

That is, as Googlebot is not the only visitor to a site, and maybe one among many bots crawling it, it doesn’t want to crash the site by sending too many “requests” to the server.

What Might Be Causing A URL To Be “Discovered – Currently Not Indexed”?

There are two main reasons a page is known to Google but not indexed. John Muller gave details about these in 2023.

Essentially, alongside the concerns around the server’s capacity to withstand crawling, page quality is also considered.

Now, if a page has not been crawled, how can Google know its quality? Well, it can’t. What it can do is make assumptions based on the quality of the pages elsewhere on the site.

That’s right – thin, duplicate, low-value pages elsewhere on your website can affect the indexation of your core pages.

How To Fix The Issue

There is no quick fix to move a page from “Discovered – currently not indexed” to “Indexed,” but there are several solutions you can try.

Check If The Page Is Actually Indexed

The first port of call is to determine if the Google Search Console report is accurate and up to date.

In the top right-hand corner of the report, you will see the “Last updated” date. This gives you an idea of whether the report might be outdated.

Next, go to Google and perform a site:[yourwebsitedomain] inurl:[the URL slug of the page you want to index] search.

If the page is returned as a search result, then you know it is actually indexed.

Give the report some time to get updated, and it will start appearing under the “Indexed” section and not in the “Discovered – currently not indexed” report.

Check Your Site’s Page Quality

Next, you may want to consider the overall quality of your website, as this could be the reason why Google is not indexing your page.

Remember, quality is not just a measure of the words on your site, their relevance to search queries, and the overall “E-E-A-T” displayed. Instead, Google’s John Muller described it as:

“When it comes to the quality of the content, we don’t mean like just the text of your articles.

It’s really the quality of your overall website.

And that includes everything from the layout to the design.

Like, how you have things presented on your pages, how you integrate images, how you work with speed, all of those factors they kind of come into play there.”

So, review your website with these criteria in mind. How does the quality of your website compare to that of your competitors?

A thorough website audit is a good place to start.

Check For Duplicate Pages

Sometimes, a website might have low-quality or duplicate pages that the website manager has no knowledge of.

For example, a page might be reached via multiple URLs. You might have a “Contact Us” page that exists on both exampledomain.com/contact-us and exampledomain.com/contact-us/.

The URL with and the URL without the “trailing slash” are considered separate pages by Googlebot if it can reach them both, and the server returns a 200 status code. That is, they are both live pages.

There is a possibility that all of your pages may be duplicated in this same way.

You might also have a lot of URL parameters on your website that you are unaware of. These are URLs that contain “query strings,” such as exampledomain.com/dress?colour=red.

They are usually caused by filtering and sorting options on your website. In an ecommerce website, this might look like a product category page that is filtered down by criteria such as color, and able to be sorted by price.

As a result, the main features of the page do not change with this filtering and sorting, just the products listed. These are technically separate, crawlable pages and may be causing a lot of duplicates on your site.

You may think your website only has 100 high-quality pages on it. However, a Googlebot may see hundreds of thousands of near-duplicate pages as a result of these technical issues.

Ways To Fix “Discovered – Currently Not Indexed”

Once you have identified the likely causes of your URL not being indexed, you can attempt to fix it.

If your website has duplicate pages, low-quality, scraped content, or other quality issues, that is where to begin.

As a side benefit, you are likely to see your rankings improve across your pages as you work to fix these issues.

Signify The Page’s Importance

In the example of our opening question, there is a specific page that Mandeep is struggling to get indexed.

In this scenario, I would suggest trying to bolster the page’s importance in the eyes of the search engines. Give them a reason to crawl it.

Add The Page To The Website’s XML Sitemap

One way of showing Google that it is an important page that deserves to be crawled and indexed is by adding it to your website’s XML sitemap.

This is essentially a signpost to all of the URLs that you believe search bots should crawl.

Remember, Googlebot already knows that the page exists; it just doesn’t believe it is beneficial to crawl and index it.

If it is already in the XML sitemap, do not stop there. Consider these next steps.

Add Internal Links To The Page

Another way to show a page’s importance is by linking to it from internal pages on the site.

For example, adding the page to your primary navigation system, like the main menu.

Or add contextual links to it from within the copy on other pages on your website. These will signify to Googlebot that it is a significant page on your website.

Add External Links To The Page

Backlinks – they are a fundamental part of SEO. We’ve known for a while that Google will use links from other websites to determine a page’s relevance and authority to a subject.

If you struggle to show Google that your page is of enough quality to index, then having external links from reputable, relevant websites pointing to it can give additional reassurance of the page’s value.

For example, if the page you are struggling to get indexed is a specific red dress’s product detail page, then having that dress’s page featured in some fashion blogs may give Google the signal that it is a high-quality page.

Submit It To Be Crawled

Once you have made changes to your website, try resubmitting the page to be crawled via Google Search Console.

If you notice in the Google Search Console “Indexing” report that the URL is still within the “Discovered – currently not crawled” bucket after some time (it can take anywhere from a few days to a few weeks for Google to crawl a submitted page), then you know that you potentially still have some issues with the page.

In Summary

Optimize your website for crawling and indexing. If you do this, you are likely to see those pages move from “Discovered – currently not indexed” to “Indexed.”

Optimizing your particular website will require an in-depth analysis of the overall quality of the site and identifying how to convey the importance of the “Discovered – currently not indexed” pages to Googlebot.

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Ask An SEO: What Links Should You Build For A Natural Backlink Profile? via @sejournal, @rollerblader

This week’s Ask an SEO column comes from an anonymous asker:

“What should a backlink profile look like, and how do you build good backlinks?”

Great question!

Backlinks are a part of SEO as a way to build trust and authority for your domain, but they’re not as important as link builders claim.

You can rank a website without backlinks. The trick is focusing on your audience and having them create brand demand. This can be equal in weight to backlinks but drives more customers.

Once you are driving demand and have created solid resources, backlinks start occurring naturally. And when you have an active audience built from other channels, you can survey them to create “link worthy” pages that can result in journalists reaching out.

With that said, and when all else is equal, having the trust and authority from a healthy and natural backlink profile can be the deciding factor on who gets into the top positions and who gets no traffic.

A healthy backlink profile is one that appears to be natural.

Search engines, including Google, expect a certain amount of spammy links from directories, website monitoring tools, and even competitors that spam or try to do a negative SEO attack. These are part of a healthy backlink profile.

What is unnatural is when your website or company has done nothing to earn an actual link.

When there is nothing noteworthy, no original thought leadership or studies, or something that goes viral and the media covers, there’s no reason someone would ever have linked to you.

Having backlinks for no reason would likely be considered an unhealthy link profile, especially if they’re mostly dofollow.

Healthy link profiles contain a mix of dofollow, nofollow, sponsored, and mentions from actual users in forums, communities, and social media shares.

Unhealthy backlink profiles are where a website has links from topically irrelevant websites, when the articles have mentions of big brands and “trustworthy” or “high authority” sites, and then randomly feature a smaller company or service provider with them.

It’s an old trick that does not work anymore. Unhealthy link profiles also include private blogger networks (PBNs), link farms, link wheels, link networks, and where the sites have a high domain authority (DA), Authority Score (AS), etc.

Bonus tip: DA, AS, and other metrics are not used by search engines. They are scores that third-party SEO tools created and have absolutely no say when it comes to the quality of a website or backlink.

If someone is telling you high DA is good and Google trusts these sites, they’re selling you snake oil.

Although backlinks are not as important as they used to be, backlinks still matter. So, if you’re looking to build some, here are a few strategies to try, avoid, and tread lightly with.

Scholarship, Grants, And Sponsorships

These don’t work. Google knows you’re offering them to get .edu links, and in rare cases .gov links. And definitely from charities and events.

It’s easy to map back to who paid or bought them, and these likely won’t count for you SEO-wise.

If they make up the majority of your links, you should expect them to be neutralized by the search engines or to get a manual action against your site for unnatural link building in Search Console from Google.

If you’re doing a sponsorship, ask for the website being sponsored to place “sponsored” instead of “nofollow.”

And if you’re doing a scholarship or grant, feature the winner on your site, provide a full education and follow up about them, and have them share their story for the next few years in a monthly or quarterly column on your blog.

If you genuinely want to do good, share their story and progress. Otherwise, it was just for getting backlinks, and that works against you.

Citations And Broken Links

When you get mentions in the media, or a competitor has a naturally occurring link to a study, but it goes to a broken page, this is a good way to build a natural link. Reach out to these sites and ask them to link to your study instead.

You can mention their visitors are currently hitting a dead page if it’s a broken link, and present your study or resource, which is of equal or better value. Or share that yours has been updated where the current source is outdated and no longer applies.

For citations where nobody has a link, try letting the website owner know it saves the user a trip to a search engine to find another answer. And when they have a good experience on the website, they’re likely to come back for more information.

Topically Relevant PR

I’m a big believer in PR to acquire backlinks naturally. But you have to do things that make sense for your business.

  • Local stores and service providers should get links from local news stations, local bloggers, and niche websites in their industry.
  • Service providers need to focus on trade publications, industry-relevant blogs and publications, events, and social networks.
  • Stores will do well with niche and audience-relevant bloggers, communities, publications or media websites, and mass media coverage that is not affiliate links or in an affiliate folder.

Think about what is newsworthy that you can do or provide that these groups would want to cover.

PR and SEO agencies that work with content will be able to provide ideas, then you can choose which ones you like and run with them. Not every campaign will work, but hang in there – the right one will happen.

You can also try surveying your audience for original data points and studies, and then publish them. And that goes to the next tip.

The publications must be topically relevant to you in order to help with SEO and avoid penalties.

If your customers and users are not the reader base of the website or publication, the link and coverage will appear unnatural and you’ll eventually get penalized or a devaluation.

Press Releases

Press release backlinks and syndication backlinks work against you, not for you. But that doesn’t mean they cannot help with link acquisition. For this strategy to work, provide enough data to gauge interest.

Share some of the data points from the study as a teaser and give a way for editors, journalists, and industry professionals to reach out to you.

Don’t charge for the study. But ask them to source and cite the data on your website, or reference your company as the source of the information.

But keep in mind that if your talking points are the same as your competitors, and you have the same type of data, there’s no reason to add another citation or to cover you.

What can you discover and share that hasn’t been covered and will enhance the publication’s articles in a new way? Put yourself in the reader’s shoes and think about what is missing or what questions were not answered.

If comments are enabled on the publications, look for questions and build a resource backed by data that answers them.

You can then reach out to the editors and make a strong case to either add you or create a new post about the new topic since the previous one did well.

Bonus tip: Even if you don’t get a backlink, being cited can go a long way, as you may be able to use the company’s logo in your PR bar as a trust builder. You can also reach out to the PR or brand team and ask for the link using the citation strategy mentioned above.

Blog And Forum Commenting

This does not work. Search engines know that anyone can go and spam these, use a bot, or pay someone to do this.

They will work against you, not for you. Just don’t. Let the communities and site owners link to you naturally.

If your customers are on the blog or in the community, join the community and participate. Use it to acquire an audience and build trust for your brand.

Not for backlinks. The backlinks and community mentions will eventually happen. And this is how they can become natural.

Social Media Profile Links

This does not work because anyone can create an account and get the link.

Links for SEO must be earned. Social media is about building an audience and bringing them to your website.

The backlinks are useless for SEO, with one exception. Some search engines crawl and index accounts.

If you struggle to get crawled, an active social media account that gets crawled and indexed fast may be able to encourage spiders to find your website and pages more easily.

Focus On Being Worth Linking To

There’s no shortage of ways to get backlinks, but not all links are good. If the link can be purchased or acquired by anyone, like a directory, it won’t help you with SEO.

If your customers are not on that website, and the majority of the website isn’t topically relevant to you, chances are the backlink will work against you.

Healthy link profiles have a mix of good and bad, natural and unnatural. If your company hasn’t done or shared anything link-worthy, there are no backlinks that can bring you long-term success.

Focus on being worth linking to, and the backlinks will come naturally.

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Ask An SEO: How To Stop Filter Results From Eating Crawl Budget via @sejournal, @rollerblader

Today’s Ask An SEO question comes from Michal in Bratislava, who asks:

“I have a client who has a website with filters based on a map locations. When the visitor makes a move on the map, a new URL with filters is created. They are not in the sitemap. However, there are over 700,000 URLs in the Search Console (not indexed) and eating crawl budget.

What would be the best way to get rid of these URLs? My idea is keep the base location ‘index, follow’ and newly created URLs of surrounded area with filters switch to ‘noindex, no follow’. Also mark surrounded areas with canonicals to the base location + disavow the unwanted links.”

Great question, Michal, and good news! The answer is an easy one to implement.

First, let’s look at what you’re trying and apply it to other situations like ecommerce and publishers. This way, more people can benefit. Then, go into your strategies above and end with the solution.

What Crawl Budget Is And How Parameters Are Created That Waste It

If you’re not sure what Michal is referring to with crawl budget, this is a term some SEO pros use to explain that Google and other search engines will only crawl so many pages on your website before it stops.

If your crawl budget is used on low-value, thin, or non-indexable pages, your good pages and new pages may not be found in a crawl.

If they’re not found, they may not get indexed or refreshed. If they’re not indexed, they cannot bring you SEO traffic.

This is why optimizing a crawl budget for efficiency is important.

Michal shared an example of how “thin” URLs from an SEO point of view are created as customers use filters.

The experience for the user is value-adding, but from an SEO standpoint, a location-based page would be better. This applies to ecommerce and publishers, too.

Ecommerce stores will have searches for colors like red or green and products like t-shirts and potato chips.

These create URLs with parameters just like a filter search for locations. They could also be created by using filters for size, gender, color, price, variation, compatibility, etc. in the shopping process.

The filtered results help the end user but compete directly with the collection page, and the collection would be the “non-thin” version.

Publishers have the same. Someone might be on SEJ looking for SEO or PPC in the search box and get a filtered result. The filtered result will have articles, but the category of the publication is likely the best result for a search engine.

These filtered results can be indexed because they get shared on social media or someone adds them as a comment on a blog or forum, creating a crawlable backlink. It might also be an employee in customer service responded to a question on the company blog or any other number of ways.

The goal now is to make sure search engines don’t spend time crawling the “thin” versions so you can get the most from your crawl budget.

The Difference Between Indexing And Crawling

There’s one more thing to learn before we go into the proposed ideas and solutions – the difference between indexing and crawling.

  • Crawling is the discovery of new pages within a website.
  • Indexing is adding the pages that are worthy of showing to a person using the search engine to the database of pages.

Pages can get crawled but not indexed. Indexed pages have likely been crawled and will likely get crawled again to look for updates and server responses.

But not all indexed pages will bring in traffic or hit the first page because they may not be the best possible answer for queries being searched.

Now, let’s go into making efficient use of crawl budgets for these types of solutions.

Using Meta Robots Or X Robots

The first solution Michal pointed out was an “index,follow” directive. This tells a search engine to index the page and follow the links on it. This is a good idea, but only if the filtered result is the ideal experience.

From what I can see, this would not be the case, so I would recommend making it “noindex,follow.”

Noindex would say, “This is not an official page, but hey, keep crawling my site, you’ll find good pages in here.”

And if you have your main menu and navigational internal links done correctly, the spider will hopefully keep crawling them.

Canonicals To Solve Wasted Crawl Budget

Canonical links are used to help search engines know what the official page to index is.

If a product exists in three categories on three separate URLs, only one should be “the official” version, so the two duplicates should have a canonical pointing to the official version. The official one should have a canonical link that points to itself. This applies to the filtered locations.

If the location search would result in multiple city or neighborhood pages, the result would likely be a duplicate of the official one you have in your sitemap.

Have the filtered results point a canonical back to the main page of filtering instead of being self-referencing if the content on the page stays the same as the original category.

If the content pulls in your localized page with the same locations, point the canonical to that page instead.

In most cases, the filtered version inherits the page you searched or filtered from, so that is where the canonical should point to.

If you do both noindex and have a self-referencing canonical, which is overkill, it becomes a conflicting signal.

The same applies to when someone searches for a product by name on your website. The search result may compete with the actual product or service page.

With this solution, you’re telling the spider not to index this page because it isn’t worth indexing, but it is also the official version. It doesn’t make sense to do this.

Instead, use a canonical link, as I mentioned above, or noindex the result and point the canonical to the official version.

Disavow To Increase Crawl Efficiency

Disavowing doesn’t have anything to do with crawl efficiency unless the search engine spiders are finding your “thin” pages through spammy backlinks.

The disavow tool from Google is a way to say, “Hey, these backlinks are spammy, and we don’t want them to hurt us. Please don’t count them towards our site’s authority.”

In most cases, it doesn’t matter, as Google is good at detecting spammy links and ignoring them.

You do not want to add your own site and your own URLs to the disavow tool. You’re telling Google your own site is spammy and not worth anything.

Plus, submitting backlinks to disavow won’t prevent a spider from seeing what you want and do not want to be crawled, as it is only for saying a link from another site is spammy.

Disavowing won’t help with crawl efficiency or saving crawl budget.

How To Make Crawl Budgets More Efficient

The answer is robots.txt. This is how you tell specific search engines and spiders what to crawl.

You can include the folders you want them to crawl by marketing them as “allow,” and you can say “disallow” on filtered results by disallowing the “?” or “&” symbol or whichever you use.

If some of those parameters should be crawled, add the main word like “?filter=location” or a specific parameter.

Robots.txt is how you define crawl paths and work on crawl efficiency. Once you’ve optimized that, look at your internal links. A link from one page on your site to another.

These help spiders find your most important pages while learning what each is about.

Internal links include:

  • Breadcrumbs.
  • Menu navigation.
  • Links within content to other pages.
  • Sub-category menus.
  • Footer links.

You can also use a sitemap if you have a large site, and the spiders are not finding the pages you want with priority.

I hope this helps answer your question. It is one I get a lot – you’re not the only one stuck in that situation.

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Ask An SEO: How Can I Make Myself Stand Out As A Strong Candidate For My First Full-time Marketing Role? via @sejournal, @HelenPollitt1

Our question this week is an excellent one for anyone who is looking to start their career in marketing: “How can I make myself stand out as a strong candidate for my first full-time marketing role?”

The job market is tough at the moment. It can be hard to stand out amongst other candidates. It’s even more difficult if you are looking for your first role in the industry.

I’m going to walk through a few ways that you can identify the right role for you, increase your chances of being invited to interview, and demonstrate your suitability for the role to hiring managers.

Finding The Right Opportunities To Apply For

One of the most important steps in standing out amongst a sea of other applicants is making sure you are applying for the right roles.

When you are looking through the job boards or speaking with recruiters, it’s critical that you consider the following:

Do I Want To Be A Specialist Or A Generalist Marketer?

Marketing is an extremely broad industry. It covers online and offline, acquisition and retention, creative and technical – email, paid, organic, CRM, and social.

There are many types of work that can be carried out under the “marketing” umbrella. You may have a clear idea of what type of marketing interests you, or you might still be unsure.

If you are unsure, then it may be a good idea to look at a more generalist role for your first one. This would be one that gives you exposure to different types of marketing. For example, a role that means you’ll be working on a paid ad campaign one day and an email campaign another.

This way, after a few years in the role you’ll have solid experience in a range of disciplines and can make a more informed decision about the direction you want your career to go in.

Having a broad experience also makes it easier for you to work collaboratively with other marketers in the future, as you’ll have an understanding of what their work entails.

In-house Or Agency?

Speak to any marketer, and they will tell you that there are some big differences between working in-house for a brand and working for clients in an agency.

It is worth considering these when looking for your first role. For example, when working as an in-house marketer, you will likely get to really dig deep into marketing for that one industry.

You may be working with other industry specialists and will have the opportunity to learn a lot about how to market to that particular audience.

However, there’s a risk that you may not have many other marketers to learn from. You may be in a team of one or two other marketers, and you may not benefit from the wisdom of a wide range of experienced colleagues. Your stakeholders will be the business’s decision-makers, potentially very senior members of staff.

However, working for an agency gives you exposure to many more industries, businesses and types of activities.

If you are looking to focus on SEO, for example, your likelihood of being involved in complicated SEO processes like migrations and technical audits will increase.

Your stakeholders will mainly be clients, other agencies, and perhaps your agency’s development team. However, you will always be one step removed from the business you are marketing for and the decisions made about it.

Do I Need To Research Marketing Channels Further?

You may need to pause your search for your new role to do some more research. Spend some time looking into the different marketing channels and the skills needed for them.

If you have any connections who are marketers, spend some time speaking to them about what they enjoy about their roles and what their favorite marketing activities are. This way, you can start to get a feel for what roles you might thrive in.

Applying For Roles

Once you have identified the jobs that you are interested in, it’s time to start applying. This is your opportunity for first impressions. There are many guides available on how to structure your resume to show off your skills.

For your first role in the marketing industry, you need to pay attention to the skills listed in the job adverts and make sure you include and demonstrate them in your resume.

That’s tricky to do, though, if this is your first marketing job. So how do you evidence your suitability through your application?

Transferrable Skills

Look at the skills involved in the marketing activities the role would require you to carry out. Read through the job description and pick out any specific behavior traits it mentions. Think back through your recent work or voluntary experience and pick out where those skills overlap with the job requirements.

For example, if you have worked in retail or customer service, you will have likely developed excellent stakeholder management skills. These are always useful for marketing roles. Working as an administrator in an office will have given you experience in meeting tight timelines. Your prize-winning art school submission evidences your creativity!

Whatever your previous experience is, there will most likely be aspects from which you can draw parallels to the requirements of the role you are applying for.

Remember, if you are applying for entry-level marketing roles, the hiring team should be expecting you to have little to no formal work experience within the industry.

Demonstrating that you are aware of what the role entails, and that you have already begun cultivating the skills needed for it will set you apart from a vast number of other candidates.

Voluntary Experience

Voluntary work experience in marketing will help you stand out. It will further demonstrate that you understand different marketing techniques and job requirements. Many charities will be grateful for assistance with their marketing.

If you do this, just make sure that you feel confident enough in your knowledge that you are not going to make serious mistakes or that you will be given a supervisor who can help guide you.

If you can’t find suitable voluntary experience you could try approaching local marketing agencies and seeing if they offer work experience placements.

Even a week of work will give you experience you can include on a resume and, perhaps more importantly, will help you create a network of other marketers.

Get A Resume Check From A Marketing Recruitment Specialist

Finally, if you are unsure that your resume is showcasing all of your transferrable skills and marketing knowledge in a way that is attractive to hiring managers, consider a resume review.

Many recruiters will offer you the opportunity to have your resume reviewed by them for free. Look for ones that specialize in recruiting for marketing roles.

You benefit from their years of experience working with candidates. They may even forward you for any appropriate roles they are recruiting for.

Nailing The Interviews

Remember, if you are applying for the right types of roles, no one is going to expect you to have all the answers during your interview. They will know that you are looking to break into the industry.

I have a lot of experience in hiring marketing interns and early-career colleagues. The candidates who have impressed me the most for these roles are those who have shown that they understand what it entails and can demonstrate a passion for marketing.

These roles have been designed to train new marketers, so the emphasis isn’t on their experience but on their ability to learn and their interest in doing so.

So when you get to your interviews, think about the following.

What Excites You About The Role?

Research each company that you are interviewing with and be ready to talk about why that role interests you.

For example, if you are applying to an agency, you can look at its website and social media accounts to identify some of the clients and industries it works with.

Perhaps its focus on charities appeals to you, or you feel that the opportunity to work with a broad range of companies will help grow your marketing skills quickly.

Take a look at some of the campaigns the agency has carried out or the work it has done to win awards. Speak to the team about specific examples and why you feel that is the sort of work you want to be involved with.

If you are applying to in-house roles, still take a look at their social media and websites. Sign up for their email newsletters.

This will give you an understanding of what sort of marketing they are doing. Perhaps you like the tone of voice they use with their audience or think their most recent email campaign was particularly effective.

Discussing these aspects shows you are interested in their company, but more importantly, that you understand the different marketing levers they are already using.

Where You Have Learned Marketing

Be ready to discuss where you have learned about marketing. This may be through formal education like a degree, or it might be that you have taken on your own personal studies.

Interviewers will be interested to know what you already understand about marketing theory but also that you are still trying to stay up to date. Remind yourself of the conferences you’ve attended, podcasts you’ve listened to, and articles you’ve read. This can demonstrate both a passion for marketing but also a strong grounding in its principles.

Perhaps your knowledge has come about through some side projects you’ve worked on at your previous jobs.

You may not have been the company’s full-time marketer, but you may have assisted in putting together an ad campaign or carrying out marketing surveys.

This is all relevant experience and knowledge that you should highlight at the interview to stand out from the crowd.

Show Your Continued Interest In Marketing

Another way to stand out as a candidate who is genuinely interested in the marketing industry is to talk about news, trends, and campaigns that you have recently seen.

For example, keeping up-to-date via publications like Search Engine Journal means you can talk about the latest advancements regarding AI in marketing – or you can discuss recent Google system updates and changes to social media platforms. All of this will show that you are embedding yourself in the industry and keeping abreast of important changes in it.

Have a look at some recent marketing campaigns that have stood out to you – both successful and not. Think about what they got right in terms of audience, messaging, and channels. Think about what you would recommend they change.

Also, note some companies that you think are leading the charge within the marketing channels you are looking to work with.

Or perhaps even research some of the competitors for the company you are applying to. You can have a look at what they are doing well or poorly at in regards to their marketing.

This will demonstrate that you are already thinking about how to critique and improve campaigns. It also shows that you understand the importance of competitor analysis and monitoring.

Get Advice From People Already In The Industry

A lot of what goes into landing a good job in marketing, especially if it is your first one, is who you know.

The marketing industry, especially among channel specialists, can be very tight-knit. This means that you should try to take full advantage of the communities and conferences available to you.

Ask people already doing the type of marketing you’re hoping to work in what they would be looking for when hiring a junior – what skills they are looking for and what sort of behaviors they would want to see demonstrated in interviews.

You might be able to arrange for a mentor through one of these communities. That way you are getting to know someone more senior than you who will be able to connect you with other marketers and potentially even provide a reference for you.

Have Examples

Finally, a great way to stand out from the crowd is to start doing the work that you want to end up doing.

By that, I mean create some draft Facebook adverts or sketch out some ideas for a digital PR campaign. You can talk about these at an interview, or if you share them more widely, it might even help you get an interview.

Sharing your ideas and asking for feedback on social media is a great way to learn. It also helps to get your name out there to potential employers.

If you are looking to specialize in something like SEO, digital PR, or content creation, start your own website or channel. Practice the skills you are learning, and you’ll be ready with some examples of what you’ve learned when you get to interviews.

It’s Not Just About Making Yourself Stand Out

In essence, it can feel overwhelming when trying to break into the marketing industry.

In reality, though, there are ways you can start to learn and practice skills way in advance of getting your first interview. Any voluntary experience you have can help to demonstrate your aptitude and interest in marketing.

Most critically, though, if this is a career that you see yourself in for a while, it is good to take some time to find the right first job.

Look for a company that is going to support you as you grow in confidence and give you the opportunities you need to become an expert marketer.

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Ask An SEO: How To Find The Right Long-tail Keywords For Articles via @sejournal, @rollerblader

This week’s Ask An SEO question comes from Carrazana in Cuba, who asks:

“How do you find the right, long-tail keywords for articles? I can not find the right keywords and long tail keywords for my post and articles. I use keywords everywhere.”

Great question, Carrazana! Lots of content professionals struggle with finding long tail keywords, and many worry about cross-over between posts, also known as keyword and topic cannibalization.

The way to find long tail keywords and prevent cannibalization is to change your mindset on needing keywords by article and incorporate non-traditional research tools. So, let’s solve this so it is no longer an obstacle for you.

I’m going to start by addressing cannibalization, then jump into using non-traditional keyword research methods like LinkedIn hashtags and strategies our agency uses to generate ideas for our clients.

One thing I’d like to emphasize is to not focus on keywords; focus on the topic, and providing the best possible user experience for the intent of the topic.

Cannibalization

Instead of thinking about the keywords that are needed, think about the topic that you’re writing for.

The same words and phrases could mean different things and have different intent based on the topic, even if they’re used in the same way. Not in the sense of a homonym or double entendre, but as in search intent.

The same phrase for the service should exist in multiple pages of content, including product or service pages for conversions, and in guides to help consumers learn more, decide where to purchase, or how to prepare. The difference here is the topic changes based on the intent.

On the conversion page, the phrase needs to reinforce that this is a page that the consumer can take action on. For a how-to guide, it is more informative and should help the consumer know how to do it themselves, prepare for the professional to come and visit, or learn how to hire the right person for the job.

Search engines are smart enough to know the intent of content and can show it as needed. This is why you want to have a clear intent when creating content.

If you sell apples, do not define what an apple is on your product or service page.

The person already knows; instead, define it on a blog post about “what an apple is.” The product or service page should be about the benefits of using the specific apple, like baking, eating it directly, or feeding it to specific animals as a treat.

Your blog posts can include definitions, guides, and comparisons of which apples are better for specific purposes and why, as well as other non-conversion-oriented content.

Both the product page and at least one guide will have “apples for horses,” but the intent is different.

One page clearly shows where you can buy an apple to feed a horse, while the other explains why that particular apple is better for horses, which may be its nutritional value or the way a horse’s tastebuds and body respond to the sugar or fiber content.

I’m making this up for the example; don’t take it as factual advice. You can deploy schema to let the search engines know when to show each page based on search intent.

Product and service schema goes on the pages where you want conversions, and article or blog posting schema can go on the guides and informative ones. The machine learning portions of the search engine will look at the associations around the text while other aspects read the schema to determine what the purpose of the page is.

Proper implementation and clear wording make the search engine’s job easy and reduce the chance of cannibalization. Now that you know how to prevent cannibalization, let’s go into finding long tail keyword topics.

Finding Long-Tail Keyword Phrases

Finding long-tail keyword phrases is simple when you step outside of the normal tool sets.  You have data points your competitors and third parties don’t have access to using customer data, and there are non-traditional places you can search.

Customer Support

Start by reading customer service and live chat transcripts. See if you can extract questions that mention specific products or services or by a category like blue t-shirts or red apples. With this information, you can see the words and language your customers are using, and how frequently.

These become long tail phrases for content on all forms of pages. You can also see the questions they have, reasons they return product, and recommendations customer support offers to guide them to the correct option to purchase.

These data points lead to sizing guides and comparison shopping content, articles about one fabric being better than another for a purpose like cocktail parties or running a marathon, and answer questions for the shopping and checkout process.

You may also find that these are questions being asked about your competitors like which of their models is similar to a specific product on your website.

You can create solutions on your site to bring in this type of traffic by answering their customers’ questions and optimizing your site for them via search.

LinkedIn, Pinterest, Instagram, And Other Hashtag Sites

Social media sites that power part of their search and algorithm with hashtags are a goldmine of topics.

Go to LinkedIn and click on a hashtag like #SEO or #business. You’ll see how many people subscribe to it, how often it is used, and engagement on new content published within the hashtag’s feed.

If the hashtag is being used regularly and has engagement, look at the posts that exist within it. By knowing which gets the most comments, activity, and other signals, you can use them as a basis for new content on your own website.

As a bonus, they can be shared on these social platforms and hopefully get social media engagement too.

Bonus tip: The most engaged may only be engaged because the person or company that shared has an active following.  Look for three that are similar in topic and see if two of the three have engagement to determine if it has the potential for a bit of virality on social media.

Forums And Q&A Sites

Next, use forums and question-and-answer sites. Take a Reddit forum and plug it into an SEO tool like Semrush, Ahrefs, or Moz to see the keywords and phrases they’re ranking for.

You may find a lot of long tail that could be relevant to your own product or service offerings.

Then look at the specific threads showing up for these phrases and see if there are new long-tail keyword phrases being used by the community. This gives you insight into their mindset – compare it with your own live chat and customer service data.

Q&A Keyword Tools

There are some great tools out there to find long-tail phrases, like AlsoAsked.com and AnswerThePublic.com.  When you type a keyword phrase in you can see the ideas these tools come up with for topics to write about and the keywords the tools feel are related to the main topic.

Use Autocomplete On YouTube And Search Engines

The last tip is to use auto-complete on search engines, including YouTube. Once on YouTube, type in a portion of a phrase or a keyword and you’ll see it begin to autofill potential matches.

When there’s one that is relevant for your audience, click it and then look at the titles and descriptions from each video.

Many creators use chapters, and these chapters are what the content creator found to be helpful and relevant to the phrase. Each can become topics and phrases for you as well. Next, watch each video, listen to the wording and phrases the YouTuber uses, and read the comments section below.

You’ll learn the questions that weren’t answered in the video, the jargon users use, and find more content ideas as well as gaps you can fill in to bring new information into the mix. This same strategy applies to TikTok, Instagram Reels, and other video content platforms.

There’s no shortage of ways to find long-tail keyword phrases; the only limit is your own creativity.

As a content writer and SEO professional, you have tons of it! I hope this post helps you find more to write about.

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Ask An SEO: Should I Delete My GBP If I Am Selling My Product Nationwide?

This week’s Ask an SEO question is from Ursula, who asks:

Should a small business with a local office (more workshop than sales office) and a Google Business Profile listing delete the GBP listing if they want to focus on selling their product nationwide?

Great question, Ursula! I hear this question all the time at conferences and online, but it’s not a simple answer. Like everything with SEO, it depends.

If you were asking in person, I’d first ask what kind of business we’re talking about – it’s possible that they’re not eligible for a Google Business Profile (GBP) in the first place.

Which Businesses Are Eligible For A Google Business Profile?

Any time you have questions about Google Business Profiles, it’s best to check the guidelines to see if there’s an answer buried somewhere in there.

Google keeps an updated list of GBP guidelines in the Help Center that explain eligibility requirements and rules that businesses should follow.

Most people don’t realize that not every business qualifies for a Business Profile. According to the GBP Guidelines,

“To qualify for a Business Profile, a business must make in-person contact with customers during its stated hours.”

Obviously, there’s more to it than that, but this statement is the most important element of the eligibility section. If a business doesn’t do face-to-face business with customers during the stated business hours, it’s not eligible for a GBP.

Brick-and-mortar locations are clearly eligible, but service-based businesses like plumbers or electricians are also eligible. Doing face-to-face business with customers at the customers’ locations still counts. Barring a few specific exceptions, that’s the main qualification that businesses need to pass.

In this specific case, we don’t know what type of business Ursula was asking about, so let’s walk through the two options.

I’m leaning towards saying that the business isn’t even eligible for a GBP.

Since Ursula said “more workshop than sales office,” that leads me to infer that sales don’t really happen at this location. If that’s the case, then they’re not eligible and can’t have a GBP.

The guidelines list several examples of ineligible businesses, including “brands, organizations, artists, and other online-only businesses.”

On the other hand, if they do sell their products at this location but also sell online to the rest of the country (or even the world), then they’d be eligible for a single GBP at this workshop/sales location.

You can’t use a Regus or other coworking space – the location must be separate for your business, not a shared space. You need permanent signage for the business, and your staff needs to be present during posted hours of operation.

So What? Couldn’t You Set Up A GBP Anyway?

Pretty much every time someone finds out they aren’t allowed to have a Google Business Profile, they ask why they shouldn’t set one up anyway.

Actually, it’s a really bad idea.

First of all, Google stopped using postcard verification and now exclusively uses video verification. Part of that verification process will include proving that you meet the guidelines – so if you’re not eligible in the first place, it’s going to be incredibly difficult to get verified.

Over the last few years, Google has become more aggressive in enforcing the GBP Guidelines.

Anything that looks suspicious (and even some activities that are completely benign) can cause a suspension. So, even if you happen to have a profile that you’re not eligible to have, it’s likely that you’ll get suspended in the near future.

Once that happens, if you’re not eligible for a GBP, you won’t be able to get your profile reinstated.

Will A GBP Hinder Nationwide Visibility?

The second half of Ursula’s question is the most important bit. She asked if they should delete the Google Business Profile if they’re trying to concentrate on selling nationally.

As I walk through this part of the answer, I’m assuming that the business is eligible for a GBP (since if they aren’t eligible, this part of the answer won’t matter anyway).

Taking a bit of a step back, local SEO isn’t only Google Business Profiles, as most people assume. Google has multiple algorithms in play, and whenever a search query has local intent, the local algorithm will be used to display the search results.

The local algorithm displays localized search results in four areas:

  • The Map Pack (or as it’s sometimes called, the “Local Pack”) – The local map with 3 search results either below the map or to the left, typically displayed above the organic results on the SERP.
  • The Local Finder – The page you see if you click “more locations” under the Map Pack. It displays every search result in the area that matches the intent of the query (instead of only the top three).
  • Google Maps – The results on Google Maps are powered by the local algorithm. While it looks like the same interface as the Local Finder, Google Maps typically has a narrower radius of results than the Local Finder since it’s more likely that the user will drive to the location.
  • Organic search results – The results below the map pack are still localized and powered by the local algorithm.

Local SEO and traditional SEO aren’t mutually exclusive. The same business or website can optimize for both algorithms and achieve great visibility on both sides.

So what should Ursula do? Nothing, really!

If the business is eligible for a GBP but also sells products nationwide, the GBP won’t hinder its nationwide visibility.

But What About Showing Up In The Map Pack?

If we assume that the business is eligible for a GBP and I gave Ursula that answer, it’s pretty likely that either she or her boss will come back with a question next: “Well, how do we show up in the Map Pack in other cities?”

You can’t show up in a Map Pack if you don’t have a GBP – so keep that in mind. If the important queries that matter to your business have local intent and a Map Pack is displayed, you won’t be able to show in those Map Pack results. Period.

You’ll still be able to target the localized organic results below the Map Pack though, so concentrate your efforts there. Create awesome content that answers potential customers’ questions, but create multiple iterations for each big market you’re targeting.

Let’s say you sell blue widgets. You’d need a stellar blue widget page for the main menu of the site, and that’s likely going to be optimized around the city where the store is located. You’d then have several other uniquely written versions of the page, and each individual page would be optimized for a different target city.

With the right internal architecture and some solid SEO, you can get your site to show up in multiple cities, even though you don’t have a GBP in any of those cities.

TL;DR Summary

Having a Google Business Profile for your single location will not affect your ability to appear nationwide in search results – but realize that you’ll only appear in the Map Pack for the city where you’re located.

Also, always remember to check the GBP guidelines for any questions about eligibility or what you’re allowed to do with your profile

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Moving From Niche Sites & Affiliate To Agency Owner via @sejournal, @rollerblader

This week’s Ask An SEO question comes from Mike in New York, who asks:

“I have been creating affiliate blogs and niche websites throughout my 10 year career. Had some great successes and setbacks to share. But now I feel tired of it with Google also specifically targeting more of these types of websites in their updates.

What other fields are there to explore in SEO, what else is working right now? How is client side SEO? How can a person like me who has worked on content websites throughout their career can make a switch? What does future hold for SEO? “

Great question, and one that actually led to me starting my agency. Here’s the background and then the answer to your question.

I had niche sites in music, weddings, clothing, architecture, etc.

They were all growing and doing well, but I got bored of the same topics in the same niches, and it became incredibly disheartening when unqualified affiliate managers took over programs, destroying parts of my income, or companies closed their programs because of low-value affiliates being approved in.

That’s when a few interesting things happened:

  • A few of the advertisers on my sites (affiliates and sponsors) asked how I was driving traffic, so I shared with them how I optimized for search and then social later on.
  • Next, I walked them through the email funnels and automations I created. The email automation backfired on me big time when 3 of my sites got hacked through a plugin, and 20 spam newsletter blasts went out simultaneously as they posted spam blog posts to my sites). Never connect your newsletter to automatically drop when a new blog post goes live.
  • I met with two of the companies in person.

Both companies asked me if I could do the optimizations I do for myself for them. It was interesting because I was getting bored and missed the structure of a “real job,” which sounds weird because I’m not a 9 to 5 person.

After a few more conversations, it made sense. So I started letting my niche sites die and used them for training purposes as I brought on contractors and staff.

Now, probably 10 or 15 years later, my agency is still going, and each of the domains has expired (I chose not to sell them even though I got an offer when they were bigger).

Now onto the answer, there are four things to be aware of and prepare for.

The first is how agency work differs so you can mentally prepare.

Next is lining up why you’re more qualified than an experienced agency.

Third, you’ll want to outline the types of clients you can work on (can and want to are different) and projects you’re able to do.

Last is being ready for more instability and inconsistency than being a niche site owner.

Being Mentally Ready For SEO Consulting

When you leave building and monetizing your own websites for consulting, you leave as your own boss. You know what works and does not, and what needs to be included in content, for example.

But it is not your choice anymore, and that becomes frustrating.

You know that the Google Reviews update recommends listing multiple shopping options in order to provide a better user experience.

Still, the ad sales team or affiliate manager sold a sponsored post. Their agreement prevents you from adding the extra store. Then, they want to know why the review or list isn’t ranking.

Another obstacle is when they insist the content cannot have “real experience” or list certain or any “negatives” because the content is a sponsored post – and everyone needs to make the advertiser happy.

Google and social media guidelines do not matter in the ad and publisher affiliate manager world; it’s about the advertiser and getting more money from them. They are not SEO pros or social media specialists; they are sales and account managers.

Their job isn’t to know that their way of thinking and selling impacts the loss of traffic. They just need to close sales and negotiate higher commissions.

With ecommerce, you have to meet brand guidelines, which can include not being able to use direct and specific language.

Sometimes you cannot follow pixel lengths (character counts) for title tags because it goes “against brand,” and that same team will ask why the titles don’t show up in the search results.

Other times, you have to “stick to branding” instead of meeting customer intent. This will drive you crazy because the opportunities are right there, but branding almost always wins, even when it costs the company money. This is a cycle that runs on repeat.

As a niche site owner, you focus on UX and revenue, but branding usually takes center stage with a company.

The branding team is not a performance marketing team. It is guided by the general counsel and going for what is required for the trademark and appearance of the brand.

As a consultant, you will benefit from learning about branding and finding a way to balance the two. Corporate branding is different from niche site branding.

The general counsel also comes into play. When you run a niche site, you can take original photos, give real feedback, and share genuine opinions.

The general counsel of your client may decide that this is not allowed on an ecommerce store, service company, or within the publication.

A story could be about to break, and you have an opportunity to get massive backlinks and Google Discover traffic or beat the current articles ranking because none of them have original thoughts or experiences.

But the general counsel holds it up for review, and the opportunity passes you by. Or the counsel decides with branding that listing negatives is bad for the company or company image, even though it can build consumer confidence through transparency.

The lack of trust builders can negatively impact both SEO and conversion rates. It isn’t their job to know how to rank a website or convert a consumer – that is your job. You also need to work within the atmosphere they provide, as you are not part of the company.

You are no longer the boss, even though you own your agency. It is your client’s website and platform. You are an easy-to-fire version of an employee who relies on the decision-maker trusting your advice.

That means you cannot push back as heavily as an actual employee; you have to make more sacrifices while keeping things afloat.

That does not mean being dishonest or not sharing the downsides, but you do walk a fine line in every meeting.

It is frustrating not to be the boss or able to make the decisions, so prepare yourself mentally for the above and more. With that said, you will learn how to better select clients and who you work with as you establish yourself. My current client base is like living a dream.

It took me over a decade to learn how to detect red flags and when it is time to move on, but now that I did, I love working with all of them.

It is the same enjoyment I got from running my own sites, but I get the structure and deadlines I missed from the corporate world. Many of them have become friends of mine outside of work. Even when I part ways with them, many keep in touch, as we did become actual friends.

List Your Skills

Yes, literally create a list of what you are highly qualified to do and print it out. This comes in handy when pitching clients, and imposter syndrome kicks in. And it will!

Under each skill, list a few successes with each so you can mention it when talking to clients. Make sure you change them out as new ones happen.

Something you did five years ago is no longer relevant as an agency. You need new and consistent wins to stay in business.

Skills can include:

  • Email and SMS acquisition.
  • Monetization (CPC, CPM, CPL, CPV, download, sponsorships, affiliate, subscriptions, info products, etc…).
  • SEO.
  • Niche knowledge and the levels about which parts of the niche.
  • Connections with other niche influencers and experts.
  • Audience building (social media, readership, community forming, events planning, etc…).
  • CRO or conversion rate optimization.
  • Code and markup (HTML/CSS, Javascript, PHP, schema, python, etc…).
  • Datafeed optimization.
  • Syndication.
  • PR, interviews, and media training.

Once your list is built, rate each skill on a scale of one to 10, with 10 being the highest. Think about which skills help other skills or teams so you can become a go-to resource for clients.

Now invest in yourself to get each marketable skill to at least a seven. I did this through necessity, like learning CSS (which I’m still not very good at) because I had to.

I also went to conferences where I could learn and discovered that many “gurus” and “keynotes” are not actual experts.

A few shows that changed my trajectory learning-wise are Pubcon, State of Search in Dallas, Zenith Duluth, and Barbados SEO. These, in particular, really changed how I see things. But I don’t use them to build business.

As an agency owner with niche experience, if you want to build clients, you go where the hiring managers are. If you are in the electronics space, go to electronics shows and inventors shows and pitch to speak.

That is where the marketers and founders are listening and looking for help. Do you work in housewares, food and recipes, etc.? The home shows are your perfect market to build clients.

The Types Of Clients You Can Work On And Projects You Can Do

Ecommerce SEO is very different from niche sites – the same with publishers and service-based companies. Then you get into non-profits, which is an entirely different ballgame.

Decide if you want to work on competing companies or all complementary to each other.

Now, determine how much time and effort each will take, and price yourself accordingly.

Don’t be afraid to map out hours on your calendar. This helps me keep track of what I need to be doing, in addition to my to-do list (which I literally write out and check off each week).

  • News sites (wholesale, trade, organization, media).
  • Niche sites (publishers, bloggers, podcasters, YouTubers, influencers, etc…).
  • Ecommerce.
  • Service providers.
  • Lead gen.
  • SEO audits.
  • Retainer projects.
  • Advisor roles.
  • Hourly.
  • Workshops.
  • Public speaking.
  • Event hosting.

Prepare For Instability

If you think Google updates or having a social media account closed is bad, wait until all clients leave in the same week. Things spiral faster than niche sites tanking.

It happens to almost everyone.

Clients are going to get pitched all the time, and you will lose some, even though you did nothing wrong.

Or you grow a company and brand, they make money and hire a new VP or Director, and that person brings in a new agency because they worked with them in the past.

You’ll also hear that the new agency can scale and work with larger companies. This may not be true, but it is what the founders hear from other founders when they attend networking events.

You lose when their peers put ideas in their heads.

Always put a little bit of money away, even $100 a month. It adds up and lets you keep going when things get bad.

This post is getting long; if you can’t tell, I’m passionate about it. So I’ll stop here. Give it a try if you have the ability and can take the risk both financially and mentally.

The worst that will happen is you fail and go back to building niche sites, take a full-time job, or do a hybrid. At least you won’t ever have to wonder what could have been.

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Ask An SEO: What Are The Best Resources To Learn SEO And Who Are The Best People To Follow Online For Good Advice? via @sejournal, @HelenPollitt1

This week’s Ask An SEO question comes from Nicolò, who asks:

“What are the best resources to learn SEO and who are the best people to follow online for good advice?”

This is a great question that goes to the heart of what a lot of people struggle with when learning SEO. There is a lot of information online.

There are a lot of SEO “experts.”

Often, there is a lot of contradictory advice.

So, how do you sort the truth from the fiction – the opinionated from the experienced?

People To Follow

The issue in the SEO industry is that we are often left in the dark. Google and the other search engines offer us morsels of information, and we run wild with speculation.

Unfortunately, this can then become “fact.”

The rumor spreads. Pretty soon, you’ll hear it discussed in agency pitches and incorporated into brand strategies, all without it being properly questioned.

Finding the truth amid all of this noise can be tricky. Essentially, you are asking me, “Who and what can I trust?”

Really, the answer is to find SEO pros to learn from who are constantly testing their own assumptions.

I’m not going to list names here. I don’t want to risk putting you off following an SEO on social media purely because I haven’t included them in my list.

There are a lot of highly accomplished SEO pros who I don’t know.

Instead, I’ll suggest some ways of identifying those people who are digging into SEO and drawing conclusions from data.

Conferences And Publications

Start by attending SEO conferences and taking note of the speakers who are bringing something new to the table.

These are the people who are conducting experiments or backing up their claims with their own case studies.

Similarly, look for authors writing in reputable SEO publications – like Search Engine Journal – read their work and follow those constantly looking to question conventional wisdom and prove or disprove it with data.

Conference organizers and publication owners perform a certain level of due diligence, which means you are a little bit safer following the people they have chosen to showcase than following strangers on the internet.

Follow Who They Follow

A good next step to expand your list is to look at who the people you identified above follow.

If the same names pop up on the social media profiles of these conference speakers and article writers, you can be reassured that they are bringing useful insight to the platform.

Try to identify who they are discussing SEO with on social media. Snoop on those conversations and see who your trusted list of people to follow are also having informed discourse with.

It’s okay, too, if the SEO professionals you follow do not necessarily agree with what’s being said by the other people, as long as those other people are bringing rational, data-backed opinions. Sometimes, we learn best through hearing both sides of an argument!

Ask For Recommendations

It’s also perfectly acceptable to ask for recommendations of who to follow online like this Reddit user did.

To avoid getting back the same small list of famous SEO professionals each time, consider reaching out to some of your “trusted” SEO pros from the list above and ask them who they would recommend for specific areas of SEO.

For example, are you looking to learn more about local SEO or ecommerce SEO?

Ask for recommendations of who they would turn to if they had a question in that field.

Be Part Of The Discussion

SEO is constantly evolving, and no single SEO expert has all the answers. We learn from each other and from discussing ideas and opinions.

It’s never too early in your career to take part in those discussions.

Join In The Conversation

Look for conversations that are happening on SEO topics and join in the discussions. For example, @MordyOberstein’s #SEOChat over on X or the Google Search Central Help Community 

Try some of the Reddit subreddits about SEO, like r/TechSEO and r/bigseo. There will be a lot of discussions (I mean arguments, really) that will give you some quick insight into what practicing SEO pros make of particular ideas or approaches.

You can simply read through questions and replies, or you can take part. Give your own thoughts and ask for critiques and opinions. Engaging in discourse and learning from others can help you to sharpen your knowledge.

Start A Conversation

Perhaps, if you’re feeling brave, you can start your own conversations in these forums.

There is always the risk that you might be met with answers by people who haven’t really practiced SEO that much. The great/awful thing about the internet, however, is there are always people waiting in the wings to argue and say an opinion isn’t valid!

Ask a specific question and crowd-source the answer. Wait for the arguments to be presented and countered, then use it as an opportunity to learn how to validate others’ SEO opinions.

Conferences And Meet-ups

As already mentioned above, seeing who is speaking at events can give you an idea of some reputable people to follow, but let’s explore that a bit more.

Learn Something New

Something I recommend to SEO pros, both experienced and new, is to attend SEO talks that don’t interest them. That might seem counterintuitive, but it can actually be extremely eye-opening.

The chances are that the aspects of SEO you find exciting are the ones you will actively seek to learn more about.

If you are interested in the technical side of SEO, you will likely look for talks on cutting-edge experiments, advances in load speed and rendering, or case studies about complicated migrations.

But you possibly already know a lot about that as you are already interested in it. Every once in a while, set out to attend the talk you are least interested in.

If you are a digital PR at heart, attend a tech talk or two. If you are an in-house SEO, attend a talk about client management.

By doing this, you have a high chance of learning something completely new that will enhance or complement your existing skill set. For example, the in-house SEO will be able to apply skills discussed in the agency talk to their own stakeholder management issues.

Some good conferences to start with include BrightonSEO (Brighton, UK, and San Diego), WTSFest (Philadelphia, London, Berlin), MnSearch Summit.

Read more: The Best SEO Conferences For 2024-2025

Look Outside Of SEO

A good way to expand your knowledge of SEO is to not just attend SEO conferences. Go to events where a more holistic digital marketing approach is spoken about.

Or, if you are feeling really inclined, go to one that discusses adjacent disciplines like PPC and email marketing. This way, you may well learn more about the context of SEO in the digital landscape and how to better implement it within a complicated marketing system.

There are several specialist conferences that cover marketing subjects like paid media, social media and content marketing available, including ADWorld Experience, Hero Conf, and Content Marketing World.

There are also large multi-discipline conferences that cover a wide range of digital marketing topics, including Moz Con, State of Search, INBOUND, and the Growth Marketing Summit.

Go To Panels

A conference talk is, by design, very one-sided (heckling aside!). The speaker presents the material how they want to and goes into as much depth as they feel appropriate.

Due to this, you don’t have any opportunity to hear other peoples’ views on the subject or even their challenges to the assertions made.

Panels, however, are more collaborative and discussion-focused. Many events that have traditional workshop or presentation formats will also have the occasional panel or fireside chat.

These are your opportunities to hear the views of multiple SEO pros, perhaps even disagreements on a subject.

Listening to more than one view of a topic will help you discern what you agree or disagree with and ultimately form your own opinion. It is a good way of preventing yourself from just agreeing with whoever you have heard speak on the subject most recently.

Participate In Webinar Q&As

Webinar question and answer sessions are another way to hear multiple SEO pros give their opinions on a topic. They will also allow you to ask your own questions to the participants.

For example, the Good Signals “SEO Office Hours” webinar hosted by Michael Chidzey and Jo Juliana Turnbull is a weekly webinar that allows viewers to submit their questions in advance or ask questions during the event itself.

Then, a panel of SEO practitioners will discuss their thoughts on the questions.

Similarly, if you want to hear directly from the horse’s mouth, you can participate in Google’s “SEO Office Hoursasking your questions directly to Googlers from the Search Quality team.

Read more: Top 17 SEO Podcasts For 2024

Communities

Many communities have been set up to help with learning SEO. Some are region – or demographic-specific to help with more nuanced questions or support those traditionally less supported in the industry.

These communities are designed to facilitate a safe space to ask questions and get answers from others in the industry.

This sort of networking isn’t just useful for increasing your practical knowledge of SEO, they can also help with job opportunities. There are a lot available but here is a selection:

Location-specific Meetups include:

Create Your Own

If there isn’t a community that serves your specific need, or you’d prefer something smaller, consider creating your own.

It could start off as regular meet-ups at local cafés where you get to know other SEO pros in your area.

Or perhaps, an online call once a month where you can just bring questions to each other.

Maybe you have met some other SEO pros you feel you could learn from. You might be able to invite them to participate in a Slack or WhatsApp group.

Create A Forum

Another way to create a community that uses existing infrastructure and is, therefore, much easier to create is through Reddit or other forums.

You could set up a “subreddit” for a particular aspect of SEO and share it on other SEO subreddits. That way, you can encourage a much wider range of people to participate without you needing to know and invite them all personally.

Resources

To finish, let’s return to the question I discerned at the beginning: “Who and what can I trust?” There are already a lot of resources online about SEO, some less helpful than others!

Newsletters

Other than online blogs like Search Engine Journal, there are newsletters that can round up breaking industry news and case studies.

For example, Aleyda Solis’s “SEOFOMO Newsletter” sends a weekly summary of interesting articles and webinars from the SEO industry.

Nikki Halliwell’s “Tech SEO Tips newsletter” offers news and tips designed to help solidify your tech SEO knowledge.

Tom Critchlow’s “SEO MBA” newsletter focuses on the career and management side of SEO.

Women in Tech SEO also has a newsletter for everyone in the industry to learn SEO from, summarising interesting articles that have been recently released.

Training Courses

There are a lot of SEO training courses out there, paid and free.

Some that have been highly recommended to me in the past are the Hubspot Academy, Semrush Academy, BrightLocal Academy, Blue Array Academy, and the BrightonSEO short courses.

Sometimes, though, you may want to go more in-depth into new areas of SEO. Perhaps you don’t really know where your skills gaps lie. For this, I would strongly recommend looking at Aleyda Solis’s LearningSEO.io.

It is a free and highly comprehensive roadmap of SEO concepts. It runs from beginner to advanced, with reliable free resources accompanying each.

Summary

There is a lot of information about SEO online. It’s an ever-evolving subject and that means more content will be produced on it all the time.

With that amount of information available, it can be overwhelming to know who or what to trust.

Use the suggestions and resources above to start to curate your own list of trustworthy material and people to learn from. That way, you can keep expanding your knowledge in a safe and helpful way.

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