36 Ways to Revive an Ecommerce Business

Listeners and readers of “Ecommerce Conversations” know I occasionally depart from interviews to share my experiences owning and operating Beardbrand, the direct-to-consumer brand I launched a decade ago. To date, I’ve addressed hiring, branding, profit-building, priority-setting, exiting, overcoming setbacks, and top business models.

This too is a solo episode, addressing entrepreneurial doldrums, when a business is seemingly stuck in no growth or worse. Certainly that’s the story of Beardbrand over the past couple of years.

So here are 36 ideas to jolt a company forward. Think of this as a checklist for tackling new projects, cutting costs, or simply resetting your focus.

My entire audio dialog is embedded below. The transcript is condensed and edited for clarity.

Operations

Build framework. Implement a clear operating framework, such as EOS — Entrepreneurial Operating System — to guide meetings, goal-setting, and accountability. It keeps everyone aligned and focused.

Define culture. Clarify why your company exists, who you serve, and how. If you haven’t done these things, you can feel lost, really quickly. Boundaries create focus, and focus strengthens customer relationships.

Define mission and core values. Create a memorable mission and concise core values for your team to live by. At Beardbrand, our values are freedom, hunger, and trust — balanced and reinforced through interviews, reviews, and everyday recognition.

Outsource when necessary. Regularly assess what to keep in-house and what to outsource. A smaller, focused team provides flexibility and freedom, while trusted external partners handle the rest.

Improve manufacturing. Continuously evaluate suppliers and get multiple quotes. Choose partners that meet quality, timing, and minimum order quantities, and stay ready for changes in pricing or management.

Implement better shipping. Re-quote carriers such as FedEx, UPS, USPS, and DHL to maintain competitive rates. Review box sizes, packaging, and 3PL processes to optimize costs, minimize errors, and enhance the customer experience.

Mitigating Risk

ADA compliance. Keep your site accessible and up to date with the requirements of the Americans with Disabilities Act to protect customers with disabilities and avoid lawsuits. Maintain a clear process for regular audits to defend your business when necessary.

Terms and privacy. Have a lawyer review your terms and privacy policy instead of relying on boilerplate text. Ensure compliance with privacy laws, including the E.U.’s General Data Protection Regulation and state-specific regulations in jurisdictions such as California and Virginia. Use pop-ups to obtain consent and avoid tracking visitors who decline.

Insurance. Verify that your coverage aligns with revenue and risk. Shop multiple providers each year to confirm you’re getting the best rate and protection.

Pay off debt. Run lean. Keep debt as low as possible so you can scale down if times get tough and borrow only when necessary.

Trademarks. Register your brand name and unique product names. Regularly search for copycats and address violations promptly, ideally with a polite initial approach before escalating to legal action.

Copyrighted photography. Use only images and text you own or license. AI art isn’t always immune to claims, and some creators are aggressive about enforcing their rights. Remind your team that use carries real legal risk.

Product claims. Avoid guaranteed-result language. You can say a product “helps” or “improves appearance,” but words like “cures” or “heals” trigger regulatory oversight.

Two-factor authentication. Enable 2FA for every employee and account to guard against phishing and unauthorized logins.

Secure email. Set up DMARC, SPF, and DKIM to prevent spoofing or impersonation of your domain.

Unused apps. Remove apps you no longer use. Old, unsupported apps can become back doors for hackers or leak your data.

Unused subscriptions. Audit credit cards and recurring charges. Cancel forgotten subscriptions and consider issuing new cards yearly to keep hidden costs and risks low.

Marketing

New customer strategy. Explore new channels. Are you on Amazon, Walmart, Etsy, and eBay? Know where your prospects are shopping, especially if you’re product-focused versus brand-focused.

In-person channels. Consider B2B and niche retailers, from independent pharmacies to mass-market stores. Smaller markets or events, such as marathons or trade shows, can offer stable, untapped opportunities.

Expand your reach. Google and Meta are common, but don’t forget TikTok, Snapchat, Pinterest, X, and YouTube. Other platforms and plugins can amplify reach.

Direct mail. Use direct mail for customers who have unsubscribed from emails. It’s another owned channel to reach potential buyers.

SMS. Similar to email, SMS is a direct and effective means of communication.

Advertising on other platforms. Market on email newsletters, websites, or programmatic TV if your budget allows. Even magazines can offer last-minute ad opportunities.

SEO/GEO. Search engine optimization may feel outdated, but it still matters to drive generative engine optimization. Ensure your site adheres to solid SEO fundamentals, establish a strong public relations presence, and remain active on Reddit, which feeds AI crawlers. Keep your brand visible as user search behavior shifts.

Influencer marketing. Work with micro or mega influencers. Utilize TikTok Shops or user-generated content to expand reach and create authentic content.

Organic social. Build your brand with organic social content. Use it to increase awareness, create authenticity, and enhance your ads.

Global markets. Expand internationally only after significant sales. Start with English-speaking countries, then Europe or China. Consider regulatory and operational costs.

AOV. Increase average order value with bundling, price testing, and shipping thresholds. Promotions and quiet price adjustments can drive higher orders.

Post-purchase upsells. Offer complementary products immediately after purchase to increase revenue per customer.

Category expansion. Launch related products that pair with existing items to encourage multiple purchases.

A/B testing. Optimize and test website layout, marketing copy, promotions, pricing, and more to increase conversion rates.

Repeat orders. Encourage repeat purchases, especially for consumables. For slower-turnover items, target niche buyers, such as developers or bulk purchasers.

Loyalty programs. Be cautious with formal programs — they can backfire. Consider offering informal rewards for milestones, such as gifts after multiple orders.

Post-purchase flow. Ensure emails and communications reach customers, and use small surprises to delight them and create loyalty.

Surprise and delight. Over-deliver on promises. Include small gifts, such as planners or notes, to enhance the customer experience, especially for higher-end products.

Subscriptions. Optimize subscription offerings to keep customers engaged and revenue flowing.

Smarter Paths to Global Sales

On-again, off-again tariffs have not lessened the opportunities for cross-border expansion. Global consumers still seek quality goods from trusted merchants.

Yet success in international selling requires careful attention to fulfillment, customs, duties, and more. That’s the role of Passport, the provider of cross-border logistics, localization, and support for ecommerce sellers.

I recently spoke with Alex Yancher, Passport’s founder and CEO, on tactics for profitable global ecommerce sales. The entire audio of our conversation is embedded below. The transcript is edited for clarity and length.

Eric Bandholz: Who are you and what do you do?

Alex Yancher: I’m the founder and CEO of Passport. We help brands expand globally through two primary models.

The first is cross-border. We integrate with a brand directly or its third-party logistics provider to internationalize the site and ship products from the U.S. to worldwide destinations. What sets us apart is our own U.S. warehouses in Los Angeles, Chicago, and New Jersey, where we consolidate shipments before sending them abroad.

The second model, designed for larger brands, enables in-country operations. We help companies set up legally, fiscally, and operationally in markets such as Canada, the U.K., the E.U., Australia, Mexico, and even the U.S. Interestingly, one of our fastest-growing services is helping international brands establish operations in America.

We’re known in the industry as a parcel consolidator, competing with firms such as DHL eCommerce. We partner with about 180 3PLs, including ShipBob and ShipMonk. While smaller brands may ship only a few international orders per week, our consolidation model enables us to pool volume from many merchants. For some clients, we run daily full-truckload pickups during peak drops; for others, weekly less-than-truckload shipments are enough. This flexibility makes international fulfillment economical for brands of all sizes.

Bandholz: When should a company outsource international fulfillment?

Yancher: Many small brands start with USPS. It’s easy to use and integrates with tools such as ShipStation. However, USPS shipments are expensive and are usually delivered duty-unpaid. That means when a package arrives in Canada, for example, customers pick it up at the post office and pay taxes before possessing it. It’s a poor experience.

UPS and FedEx are alternatives, but they’re costly and often overkill. Transit times are fast, but most brands, especially subscription businesses, don’t need two-day delivery. That’s where consolidators such as Passport make sense. We not only reduce shipping costs but also enable a delivered-duty-paid model. Duties and taxes are calculated and paid at checkout, so the package clears customs seamlessly.

We typically require at least 10 pounds of daily shipments. That could mean one heavy item, such as a stroller, or dozens of smaller items, like phone cases. If a merchant ships only a few lightweight packages a day, we might offer only weekly pickups, which slows transit. To ensure speed and consistency, we work best with brands that regularly hit the 10-pound threshold.

Bandholz: What are Passport’s fees versus USPS or FedEx?

Yancher: At decent shipping volumes, we shouldn’t cost more than $10 per package — and with higher volume, even less. Compared to FedEx, we’re often $10-$15 cheaper.

The real savings come from prepaying duties. When consumers pay duties upon delivery, local postal services charge additional clearance fees to handle the process, such as sending notices, holding packages, and verifying IDs. In Canada, for example, it costs approximately $9 Canadian. Often, that’s more than the duties themselves, effectively doubling or tripling costs.

Beyond the fees, again, it’s a terrible customer experience. Recipients must rearrange their schedules to pick up the package and pay, which creates frustration and damages brand loyalty.

When I started Passport over eight years ago, most brands shipped Delivered Duty Unpaid, typically via USPS. Back then, about 70%-80% of international ecommerce orders were shipped that way. Today, it’s completely flipped — roughly 80% of orders now ship Delivered Duty Paid, with duties prepaid at checkout.

Bandholz: How do brands present duties and currency fluctuations at checkout?

Yancher: In many countries, such as the U.K., consumers expect the checkout total to include VAT, not listed as a separate line. Seeing duties or VAT listed separately feels foreign, lowers trust, and hurts conversion rates. Instead, brands should incorporate taxes and duties into the final price to present a single, straightforward number.

Another factor is price aesthetics. Customers respond better to clean numbers, such as $99 or €45, rather than, say, $43.72. Many brands lock in local prices to maintain that aesthetic, adjusting only when exchange rates shift significantly. For example, a product priced at €40 may increase to €45 if the currency moves strongly against the merchant.

This approach balances consistency, customer perception, and margin protection. In practice, exchange rates in key markets such as Canada, the U.K., and Australia don’t swing drastically day to day. They may move 7%-8% over 18 months, but rarely shift more than fractions of a percent daily. Rounding strategies and baked-in duties usually work well without requiring daily adjustments.

Bandholz: How does a brand selling cross-border know when to fulfill locally?

Yancher: We recommend in-country expansion once a brand reaches around $2 million in annual sales in a given market. At that level, the benefits outweigh the costs. For example, cross-border shipments from the U.S. to the U.K. typically take five to six business days and incur higher fees. With local fulfillment, shipping times drop to two days or less, and last-mile costs decrease by a few dollars per package. The value proposition improves dramatically.

There are also duty savings. If a $200 sweater ships from the U.S. to Canada, the customer might pay 15% duties, about $30. However, if the same sweater is imported directly into Canada, duties are applied to the cost of goods sold, which may be $20, reducing the tariffs to just $3. That difference can make pricing far more competitive and conversion rates stronger.

Returns are easier with local fulfillment as well. The challenge, however, is compliance. Once you warehouse inventory locally, you must meet that country’s regulatory and labeling requirements. That can be complex, but Passport helps brands navigate testing, compliance, and paperwork. We also serve as the importer of record, utilizing our local business registrations to shield brands from regulatory risk and expedite market entry.

Additionally, we connect brands with trusted fulfillment providers and offer affordable freight options. The goal is to make international expansion as turnkey and low-risk as possible, enabling brands to scale confidently once they hit that $2 million threshold.

Bandholz: Where can people follow you, support you, or buy your services?

Yancher: Our site is PassportGlobal.com. I’m on X and LinkedIn.

Triple Whale’s Moby AI Gets Things Done

We’ve all heard the buzz surrounding agentic AI agents. What’s missing for many of us is how they can help our business. What is an AI agent? Can it really perform tasks and get things done?

I asked those questions and more to Anthony DelPizzo. He’s with Triple Whale, the Shopify-backed ecommerce analytics platform that has launched its own AI agent called Moby. It responds to ChatGPT-like prompts, suggests marketing channels, and even composes emails.

The entire audio of our conversation is embedded below. The transcript is condensed and edited for clarity.

Eric Bandholz: Who are you, and what do you do?

Anthony DelPizzo: I lead product marketing at Triple Whale and have been here for about nine months. Before that, I spent nearly four years at Klaviyo.

Triple Whale is an analytics platform for ecommerce brands. We merge fragmented data across marketing and sales into a single system and dashboard to help merchants make strategic decisions. To date, we’ve processed over $65 billion in gross merchandise volume.

We launched Moby, an agentic AI agent, about a month ago after a long testing phase. Moby is a set of AI tools that interact directly with merchants’ data. Think of it as ChatGPT focused on the platforms you already work with. Merchants can ask Moby both simple and complex questions and get answers tailored to their own data.

Moby Agents take it a step further. They’re akin to autonomous teammates that can analyze information, generate insights, and even take actions across ad platforms, marketing channels, operations, and more. The result could be much higher conversions or lower overhead.

Moby is built on Triple Whale’s massive data warehouse. It draws on those benchmarks and works natively with metrics such as CAC and ROAS. By using the data, Moby can connect cleanly with large language models such as Anthropic and OpenAI for each type of query.

Moby is embedded within the Triple Whale platform. It doesn’t just analyze; it can also perform tasks such as activating ads or drafting emails.

Bandholz: Do you share customer data with those LLMs?

DelPizzo: We have privacy agreements with all LLM  partners. Data stays within Triple Whale’s private environment. We’re not sending entire datasets to Anthropic, OpenAI, or any other company. Instead, Moby provides context to the LLMs based on the prompt, allowing our customers to use the LLMs securely.

For example, a prompt could be, “How should I prepare for BFCM to grow revenue 30%?” Moby’s Deep Dive feature breaks requests like this into multiple steps, with each acting as an agent examining a different aspect of the business. The result is a structured plan merchants can use to prepare for Black Friday and Cyber Monday.

Merchants use Moby for general prompts and analysis, not just seasonal planning. We provide a prompting guide to help start with effective questions and then refine the queries through follow-ups.

Bandholz: Say I prompt Moby to analyze my sales, margins, and ads, for guidance. What then?

DelPizzo: Moby would connect to your data as a Triple Whale client — product margins, SKUs, ad performance, Klaviyo, Attentive, logistics, and more. By analyzing these inputs, it can identify growth levers, such as which products or channels drove profit last year and which ones are trending now. For instance, if a brand has started performing well on AppLovin, the mobile ad platform, Moby might suggest scaling there for BFCM.

Triple Whale’s platform includes eight attribution models, along with post-purchase surveys, to track what’s driving results. We’ve also added marketing mix modeling to measure the impact from click and non-click channels, including Amazon. Moby can run correlations at a statistically significant level, which gives merchants confidence in the conclusions.

Based on that, it forecasts likely outcomes tied to business goals. If a brand wants to grow revenue by 30%, Moby highlights which levers — spending, channels, creative — are likely to help reach that target. Merchants can even see Moby’s reasoning step by step, like watching strategists think through a plan.

Moby’s analysis isn’t limited to numbers. Using AI vision, it can review ad creative, such as color choices, hooks, and copy. It also analyzes email performance by scanning HTML, subject lines, and preview text. It can draft email copy informed by this analysis, giving merchants ideas to test.

Bandholz: Can you cite anonymous customer wins from Moby?

DelPizzo: We rolled out early access to Moby and Moby Agents in February, five months ago. In April, a $100 million global brand used it during a four-day giveaway. On the final day, the team asked Moby, “What should we adjust in our plan?”

Moby responded with a detailed budget allocation by channel and predicted the revenue impact. They followed it exactly and ended up having their highest revenue day ever — 35% above their previous record, more than $200,000 higher.

Another example is LSKD, a fitness apparel brand in Australia with more than 50 stores. They used Moby to analyze the performance of their marketing channels. One agent uncovered over $100,000 in fraudulent spend from an influencer’s self-bidding, which saved the company that money. Since adopting Moby Agents, LSKD’s ROAS has grown about 40%.

Bandholz: How can merchants go wrong with Moby?

DelPizzo: The most common challenge is trying to adopt too much at once. Success usually comes from starting small. We provide a library of 70 pre-built agents, but using all of them right away can feel overwhelming.

The best outcomes are from teams that begin with a single agent, adapt it to their business, and build confidence with steady results. From there, they expand to other areas — maybe they start with the conversion rate optimization team, then retention, then other steps in the funnel. That gradual approach tends to be more sustainable.

Bandholz: Why use Moby instead of building a custom data tool with an LLM such as DeepSeek?

DelPizzo: One factor is the dataset it draws from. Moby is trained on $65 billion in GMV and has access to broad ecommerce benchmarks. It’s not about sharing brand-specific data but rather using aggregated insights to provide context — like knowing typical CAC or ROAS levels in different industries, or, say, margins for apparel versus skincare.

Another piece is the infrastructure. Building from scratch requires a unified schema for orders, events, and performance data. At Triple Whale, our large team of engineers has worked on this for years, and it’s still evolving. Without that groundwork, it’s hard to achieve the same level of ecommerce-specific intelligence.

Custom setups are possible, but Moby combines benchmarks, context, and infrastructure in a way that’s difficult to replicate.

Bandholz: Where can people support you, follow you, reach out?

DelPizzo: Our site is TripleWhale.com. Our socials include X and LinkedIn. I’m on LinkedIn.

The Best Ecommerce Business Model

In this year’s “Ecommerce Conversations,” I’ve occasionally shared my experiences owning and operating Beardbrand, the direct-to-consumer brand I launched a decade ago. To date, I’ve addressed hiring, branding, profit-building, priority-setting, exiting, and overcoming a million-dollar loss.

In this installment, I share what I believe is the best bootstrapped ecommerce model and why others should consider it.

My entire audio dialog is embedded below. The transcript is condensed and edited for clarity.

Building a D2C brand is hard. Developing and selling products is a grind. A better path is a bootstrapped, sustainable business where you spend less than you make and enjoy the journey.

The purpose is not chasing giant exits or reinventing the world. It’s about building a lifestyle business — likely under a few million in annual revenue — that trades rapid top-line growth for lower stress, profitability, and freedom. It may never go mass market, but it can deliver a great life.

Agile Structure

When building an ecommerce business, aim to keep fixed, internal costs to a minimum. Take inspiration from Will Nitze of IQ Bar, who runs a lean team and outsources marketing, design, video, packaging, operations, and manufacturing. Outsourcing creates flexibility. Vendors that underperform are easily replaced.

In-house manufacturing ties you to equipment, facilities, and local employees. All reduce mobility. With an outsourced model, you can work from anywhere — even Denmark, where I am now — and still receive prototypes and manage operations. A remote setup opens the talent pool worldwide.

There are trade-offs. In-person collaboration can be valuable, but physical offices create obligations. I learned this the hard way with a five-year lease in Austin, Texas, that became unnecessary during Covid, costing us over $100,000 annually.

Local teams and on-site operations may suit folks who prefer a traditional setup. But if freedom matters — to travel, hire globally, pivot quickly — consider outsourcing from the start. I prefer flexibility, partnering with both in-house staff and external providers to keep my business agile.

Smart Niches

An ideal ecommerce product is small, lightweight, and consumable, serving a large audience with an average order value of $75–$125. This price range makes customer acquisition easier and ad testing faster. The challenge: It’s highly competitive, especially in the supplements, beauty, and premium beverage sectors, such as specialty coffee or tea.

Other strong options are non-consumables that share those traits, such as a Ridge pocket knife — easy to ship, high perceived value. Consider untapped luxury niches. Affluent customers value convenience, presentation, and uniqueness far more than price.

For inspiration, visit luxury department stores such as Neiman Marcus and Saks Fifth Avenue. Observe what sells and why someone might pay 10 times more than a viable alternative. Avoid trend-driven categories, such as fashion, which require constant reinvention. Instead, focus on evergreen household goods with a unique twist for a small but willing-to-pay market.

While these niches won’t create billion-dollar companies, they can deliver low-stress, highly profitable businesses — think $750,000 in annual revenue with $250,000 in profit — without the complexity of endless SKUs, large teams, or operational headaches.

Margin Power

It’s possible to build a $750,000 ecommerce business that nets $250,000, but only if you manage gross margins — aim for 90%. For example, sell an item costing $6 for $60. You’ll still retain around 80% after shipping, taxes, and delivery costs. High margins are non-negotiable for a low-stress operation.

Conversely, products with tighter margins attract price-sensitive customers, which leads to increased returns, complaints, and support tickets. Serving customers with disposable income reduces friction because they’re less likely to demand refunds.

At a $115 average sale, $750,000 in annual revenue equates to roughly 6,520 orders — just 18 per day. One person can fulfill this volume, or with minimal help, generating perhaps only a few support tickets per week.

If margins leave $650,000 after cost of goods, and you spend $400,000 on marketing, you’ll retain $250,000 profit. The model works, but launching it — higher-priced products in a niche — requires time and testing. It won’t be easy to stand out, but with the right offer, it’s a manageable, profitable, and less stressful way to run a business.

Trusted Voice

Every high-end ecommerce brand needs a trusted public advocate — someone who can vouch for the quality, experience, and value of the product. It doesn’t have to be a celebrity. It can be the owner, provided she’s willing to be the face of the brand.

The advocate’s role is to build trust, communicate the product’s value, and demonstrate how it improves customers’ lives. Titles alone aren’t enough. An advocate must have influence and sales ability. Without this trust, it’s nearly impossible to command premium prices.

You may need to sell to an audience you’re not part of. That requires shedding your own “value shopper” mindset to learn how target customers buy. Experience their lifestyle, understand why they pay more, and embrace their perspective. This shift in thinking can be the key to unlocking growth.

Creative Edge

Innovation is essential. If you can’t create something unique, this model may not work. Competitors will copy your ideas and undercut your prices. Success requires loyalty and brand affinity, and thus customers who won’t switch to save $30 — or $100.

Luxury beauty brands such as La Mer skincare succeed not only from functional superiority, but also because of their storytelling, perceived exclusivity, and trust. The challenge for like-minded entrepreneurs is to create an experience and narrative so compelling that customers believe no substitute can match it.

In premium markets, even a few thousand loyal customers can sustain a profitable, low-stress business — if your innovation keeps them hooked.

How to Achieve Negative CAC

Customer acquisition costs can ruin a business. Some merchants limit acquisition spend to the gross margin of the first sale. Others look to customers’ lifetime value.

Yet Taylor Holiday, CEO of the agency Common Thread Collective, profits from acquisition marketing. He calls it “negative CAC.”

Taylor first appeared on the podcast in 2020. In our recent conversation, he explained his acquisition strategy, experiences with employee ownership, and more.

The audio from our entire discussion is embedded below. The transcript is condensed and edited for clarity.

Eric Bandholz: Give us the rundown.

Taylor Holiday: I’m the CEO of Common Thread Collective, an ecommerce marketing agency that helps brands grow predictably and profitably. We’ve been at it for over a decade. Recently, we partnered with Acacia, a private equity firm, to expand our platform and pursue the next phase of growth.

We operate with an employee stock ownership plan, an ESOP. Our company took a bank loan to buy 20% of equity from existing shareholders and placed it in a trust for employees. Shares are allocated annually based on each employee’s salary as a percentage of total payroll. For example, if payroll is $1 million and you earn $100,000, you’d get 10% of each share allocation.

Employees receive shares tax-free, with no purchase cost. If they leave, the company must buy back their shares, making them relatively liquid. ESOPs can buy out partners or provide owner liquidity, but they require education, vesting schedules, and carry liabilities on the balance sheet. Well-known companies like King’s Hawaiian are fully employee-owned.

Bandholz: Would you do it again?

Holiday: Probably not. Employees didn’t fully understand the ESOP, and it didn’t change behavior as I’d hoped. Plus, it complicates an eventual sale of a business, and the operational challenges are significant.

There’s a book on “community capitalism” that explores alternatives to pure capitalism and socialism. Capitalism can overly concentrate wealth, while socialism has its flaws. Many people sense the shortcomings of both systems but haven’t found a perfect alternative. For me, the ESOP wasn’t that solution. It was a noble attempt, but I don’t believe it resolves the core issues — and maybe nothing fully can, given human nature.

Bandholz: Before this interview, you referenced negative customer acquisition costs. Can you talk about that?

Holiday: Negative CAC means our marketing generates profit instead of being a cost. Initially, our podcast, videos, and email newsletter were purely for lead generation — effective but costly to scale. We realized these were valuable media assets for which companies, especially software vendors in our space, would pay to access our audience.

By selling sponsorships to our podcast, email list, YouTube channel, and social content, we offset production costs and, in some cases, made them profitable. This shift turned marketing into a profit center, improving margins and fueling growth.

There’s currently high advertiser demand, but a limited supply of quality, ecommerce-focused media. A small group of creators dominates sponsorships because they have niche authority. However, most operate independently with fragmented sales processes and no funding for new content creation.

I see an opportunity to unite strong content creators, build a shared sales engine, and package sponsorship offerings, similar to how The Ringer network scaled before being acquired by Spotify. Whether it’s launching new shows or helping others monetize existing ones, it’s about building the pipeline, finding sponsors, and providing the resources many creators lack.

Many brands turn costly activities into content that drives sales. For example, Vktry (pronounced “victory”), a performance insole company, outfits entire sports teams, such as UCLA volleyball. Vktry films the training sessions and uses that authentic, authority-rich footage as ad content. What would typically be a sales or training expense becomes a marketing asset, fueling ads and reducing acquisition costs.

Another example is Alex Hormozi, co-founder of Acquisition.com, a business education firm, who hosts high-ticket weekend seminars. Attendees pay to learn, and he films the sessions for ongoing distribution. He’s essentially getting paid to produce content that generates more revenue, creating a self-sustaining cycle.

In contrast, most ecommerce brands spend heavily on production, then on distribution, and hope the ads meet their CAC goals. Finding ways to subsidize or monetize production upfront can turn marketing into a profit driver rather than a cost center.

Bandholz: Where can people follow you, learn from you, and use your services?

Holiday: Our website is CommonThreadCo.com. I’m on X (with open DMs) and LinkedIn.

The No-Surprise 3PL Pricing Model

John Melizanis believes third-party logistics fees often produce surprise charges. Per-item pricing for picks, packs, and receiving can turn an anticipated $1 per order fee into $2.50 or more, he says.

John is the co-founder of ShipDudes, a New Jersey-based 3PL launched in 2020. His company uses flat-rate pricing for pick-and-pack and warehousing, and no markup for shipping. “Brands appreciate knowing their exact costs,” he told me.

In our recent conversation, John addressed the origins of ShipDudes, in-store retail, warehouse automation, and more.

The entire audio of our conversation is embedded below. The transcript is edited for clarity and length.

Eric Bandholz: What do you do?

John Melizanis: I’m a co-founder of ShipDudes, an omnichannel fulfillment company in New Jersey. We help ecommerce brands ship worldwide and break into physical retail. We’re the behind-the-scenes engine for many companies sold in Sephora, GNC, and Vitamin Shoppe.

Beyond shipping, we support brands with EDI integrations, labeling, and compliance, essential for clients entering retail for the first time. Retail logistics can be demanding; missed labels or late deliveries can result in chargebacks. We’ve built systems to handle these challenges both operationally and technologically.

We serve three primary channels: direct-to-consumer, marketplaces such as Amazon and Chewy, and in-store retail. Our tech stack integrates across all of them. We initially developed custom software, but now utilize a white-labeled platform that we’ve heavily customized.

I began fulfilling orders in a garage, using shipping software Pirate Ship and dropping off hundreds of packages at the post office. As we evolved into a full 3PL, it became clear that some fulfillment platforms fall short in terms of inventory tracking and order verification. Our system tracks everything — pick, pack, and ship — down to barcode scans.

Bandholz: How do you handle custom packaging?

Melizanis: We understand that some brands require custom inserts, folded boxes, or more intricate packaging. Internally, we group clients into three phases: startup, scale-up, and enterprise. It’s not just about size but also how operationally mature the brand is.

We support complex packaging needs but also offer guidance on ways to simplify without sacrificing brand identity. Some brands follow our advice, others don’t, but we always offer it.

Bandholz: What about employee training?

Melizanis: It all starts with a process. If the process is solid and an employee still struggles, he’s likely not a good fit.

Every pack station has printed standard operating procedures in English and Spanish, with visuals — key for our Spanish-speaking staff. We emphasize the importance of their work: “Someone paid $100 for this order. How would you feel getting the wrong item?”

We instill that mindset daily to build pride and ownership. Cameras at each station provide accountability. If there’s a customer issue, we review the footage. If it’s a recurring mistake, we coach, revisit SOPs, and retrain.

It’s not perfect. Some hires won’t work out. But we give everyone a fair shot. If they can’t follow the process, they’re not right for the team.

Bandholz: What’s the future of robotic picking?

Melizanis: I’ve seen hybrid systems with robots retrieving from bins like giant vending machines. They’re not as expensive as you’d think and can run 24/7. We’ll likely invest in something like that for picking in the next few years.

Still, people aren’t going away entirely. Many of our clients expect a high-touch experience, including custom tissue paper, inserts, and folded boxes. That level of care still needs a human. I see automation handling repetitive tasks such as picking, while packing remains more manual for brands that value the unboxing experience.

Picking is a major expense. In a 50,000-square-foot warehouse, walking from one item to another adds up quickly. Automation could significantly reduce those costs.

But packing is also expensive, especially for premium brands. It requires someone who understands the brand and packs thoughtfully. Ever get a small item in a giant Amazon box? That’s what happens when automation replaces human oversight.

Automation can optimize picking, but humans remain vital for packing, especially when presentation matters.

Bandholz: How can brands reduce 3PL and shipping costs?

Melizanis: It starts with product design. Size, weight, and fragility all impact expense. Bigger items cost more to ship and pack. Brands with low SKU variation and simple products are far easier and cheaper to fulfill at scale.

The ideal ecommerce product is small, lightweight, durable, and fits in a bubble mailer. That minimizes fulfillment costs and maximizes margins. Not every brand can do that, but if you’re developing products, it’s worth giving serious thought to.

As for shipping costs, we use different carriers for different needs. For small, lightweight, durable products, DHL and regional carriers such as Lone Star Overnight, TForce Freight, and OSM can be cost-effective.

For larger or heavier items, USPS has robust programs, and FedEx and UPS offer solid, reliable service, although they tend to be more expensive. For customer experience, FedEx or UPS Ground is probably your best bet.

People often forget about injection points. Where your package enters the carrier network matters. A rural USPS drop-off might be slower (or faster) than one in a metro hub, depending on the volume and routing.

There’s no one-size-fits-all. You need to match the right carrier to your product type, ship-from location, and customer expectations.

Bandholz: Does ShipDudes use itemized pricing like most 3PLs, or flat rates?

Melizanis: We avoid itemized pricing. Most 3PLs have multiple fees — picks, inserts, receiving, spot checks. Brands sometimes think they’re paying $1 per order but end up paying $2.50 or more.

We use a flat pick-and-pack rate. Multiply your orders by that rate, and that’s what you pay — no surprises. We calculated it based on the average number of picks per order.

We handle storage the same way: one all-in pallet fee, no added spot check or counting charges. We’re not the cheapest or most expensive, but we’re the simplest. Brands appreciate knowing their exact costs.

We also eliminated the typical 3PL communication mess. Every brand gets a dedicated Slack channel with on-site support and account managers.

Shipping is our third and final billing item, and it’s a pass-through. We negotiate competitive rates, calculate all surcharges, and pass them along directly. It saves clients time, money, and confusion.

Bandholz: How can people connect with you?

Melizanis: Our website is ShipDudes.com. Check out our podcast, “New Money Talks.” I’m on LinkedIn.

Facebook ‘Megaphone’ Powers D2C Watch Brand

Nate Lagos is vice president of marketing for Original Grain, a direct-to-consumer watch maker. He relies on Facebook advertising, but not for immediate customer acquisition.

“Platforms such as Facebook are megaphones, not salespeople,” he says.

In our recent conversation, Nate shared his marketing origins, advertising tactics, influencer management, and more.

Our entire audio conversation is embedded below. The transcript is edited for length and clarity.

Eric Bandholz: Give us a quick rundown of who you are and what you do.

Nate Lagos: I’m the vice president of marketing at Original Grain, a watch company that blends wood and steel to create timepieces that guys want to wear. I’ve been here four years, leading growth through product innovation and creative marketing campaigns. Before that, I served as CMO for a couple of smaller ecommerce brands.

The last four years at OG have been exciting, fast-paced, and at times stressful — but extremely rewarding.

My marketing journey started in college. I fell in love with the subject after my first class, but quickly realized school wouldn’t teach me how to thrive in the real world. I had one great professor, but most classes fell short. I began freelancing during my sophomore year, running organic and paid social campaigns for local businesses, and built from there.

I host a twice-weekly podcast called “Tactical & Practical.” Each episode is 10-12 minutes and delves into a single tactic we’re using or a challenge I’m facing. The goal is to create the kind of honest, tactical content I wish I had at my first CMO job at age 24, when I had no idea what I was doing.

Bandholz: How do you approach media buying and ad strategy?

Lagos: I see advertising as a way to amplify great brands, not as a tool to acquire customers directly. Platforms such as Facebook are megaphones, not salespeople. I pour budget into that megaphone because impressions have long-term value, even if they don’t immediately convert.

Nearly all of our ad budget goes to Facebook, primarily for conversion campaigns. Our average order value for new customers is $360. Their buying decisions often take months. So, we don’t obsess over daily customer acquisition costs — we focus on consistent awareness and brand affinity that pays off during key moments, such as the holidays.

Our performance metric is straightforward: If we spend $10,000 promoting a watch and earn $40,000 from it, the ads are effective, regardless of Facebook’s internal metrics. If we only make $11,000, we cut spend, test new creative, or shift messaging.

We typically advertise our top five watches, not our entire catalog. We structure our campaigns by collection, and we measure success both at the individual product level and the collection-level return-on-ad-spend. Meta accounts for 95% of our spend. The rest goes to Google, YouTube, and influencers, which we’d like to grow, though they’re harder to scale and produce content for.

Bandholz: What’s your strategy for changing ad creative on Meta?

Lagos: I’m still figuring that out. Historically, we didn’t launch a large number of ads — typically around 10–15 per week — even as we grew by over 100% last year from an eight-figure base. This year, we’ve ramped that up to 30–40 ads weekly. It’s not because we need more volume to find winners, but because Facebook won’t allocate spend unless we launch more.

The platform tends to push our top-performing ads, which is fine until those ads plateau. Previously, we could introduce new creative into the same ad set, and Facebook would distribute spend. That’s no longer happening. By increasing volume, we’re now seeing new ads spend faster and find winners more quickly.

Our full-time photographer is also our creative inspiration, handling graphic design and brand direction. We hired an operations lead earlier this year. He focuses on Klaviyo and Postscript scheduling and helps out with social and influencer campaigns. So there are three of us on the team.

Most of our messaging angles come from copy I test directly on our site. Once we see what converts there, we repurpose that language into ads.

Bandholz: Thirty pieces of content weekly takes work.

Lagos: Approximately one-third of our content consists of iterations of past winners — duplicate headlines, graphics, and photography styles. If a creative is performing, we replicate it across our top five watches and underperformers we want to push.

For new content, Chris (our creative lead) and I brainstorm weekly using a shared Canva board. I lean toward old-school inspiration — vintage Rolex and cigarette ads — while he pulls modern ecommerce and consumer-focused examples. We compare notes on what we like and dislike, and adapt our messaging and offers to those styles.

We’re intentional with testing. If we’re trying a new visual format, we’ll pair it with a proven offer, headline, and watch. If it flops, we know it’s the visual that didn’t land, not the copy or the product. It helps us stay efficient and avoid confusion when something doesn’t work.

Bandholz: What makes your top product so successful?

Lagos: We launched our top-selling watch two years ago. It’s an automatic skeleton-dial watch, so you see all the inner mechanics. It’s black-plated stainless steel with charred whiskey barrel wood, and that combo crushes. Since then, we’ve launched other watches using similar elements, and many have worked. Our founders do an incredible job designing them.

I’ve learned it’s not the marketing that determines success. We launched this watch with the same email, ad, and strategy as others. So when one sells out and the other doesn’t, no one blames marketing — it’s all about product-market fit.

Keeping this watch in stock has been the real challenge. We launched 400 units in November 2023, and they sold out quickly. We thought it was holiday timing, but it continued to sell — 500 more, then thousands for Father’s Day, and then a massive run in Q4 2024. Eventually, I raised prices and pulled back ads to slow sales.

Bandholz: You mentioned influencers. What’s your strategy?

Lagos: We’re lucky because we’re our own target audience — 35 to 50-year-old guys who drink whiskey and love outdoorsy, rugged stuff. So we’re already fans of the people we end up working with. We also survey our customers about their music and sports preferences to guide our influencer selection.

Our outreach is mostly manual. We send cold direct messages, and I occasionally reach out to agents on LinkedIn. Having big-name partners such as Jack Daniel’s and Taylor Guitars gives us instant credibility. Influencers take us seriously when they see who we work with.

We don’t do affiliate or revenue share. It doesn’t align with our long purchase cycles. Instead, we pay a flat fee for a set number of posts or YouTube inclusions. Instagram collaborations let us repurpose posts as ads. They aren’t high converters but deliver great impression and click costs.

We use codes and links to track YouTube performance and calculate revenue per thousand impressions. Some audiences, such as whiskey content creators, bring $80 RPMs, while lifestyle comedians bring $20. As long as we pay below those amounts, the channel works. We’ve also had success with truck, outdoors, and even music creators, although music has been hit or miss.

Bandholz: Where can people buy your watches and reach out?

Lagos: OriginalGrain.com. I’m on X and LinkedIn. My podcast is Tactical & Practical.

Shopify POS Exec on Future of Retail

Ray Reddy is a two-time mobile commerce entrepreneur, a Google veteran, and, now, the head of Shopify POS, the company’s in-store platform. He says the future of retail is location-agnostic, where shoppers can easily transition from online to brick-and-mortar without losing account details, order history, and similar info.

That, he says, is the path of Shopify POS.

In our recent conversation, he addressed Shopify’s physical-store penetration, the needs of modern shoppers, backend complexities, and more.

Our entire audio is embedded below. The transcript is edited for length and clarity.

Eric Bandholz: Give us a rundown of what you do.

Ray Reddy: I lead Shopify’s retail product team, focused on evolving Shopify POS into an all-in-one system for in-person commerce, from pop-ups to large multi-store enterprises.

Before Shopify, I built two commerce companies. The first, PushLife, was a mobile commerce platform acquired by Google, which I then joined and led the company’s mobile commerce products. Later, I founded Ritual, a social ordering app for restaurants and businesses. My team and I left Ritual in January this year and joined Shopify.

Shopify serves online and offline merchants in over 170 countries across nearly every vertical.

In online commerce, workflows are largely standardized, including product pages, carts, and checkout flows. But in-person retail varies drastically. A coffee shop operates nothing like a furniture store or a spa. Each vertical has distinct workflows, such as table management, appointment scheduling, or barcode scanning.

Historically, success in physical retail meant focusing on a single niche. However, many verticals also sell online and want one unified system for inventory, customers, and transaction data. They’d rather use a single platform than patch together disconnected tools.

Shopify POS’s flexibility and ecosystem are a long-term fit for many growing businesses.

Bandholz: Tell us about your target audience.

Reddy: Our core point-of-sale customers tend to fall into a few categories: apparel, sporting goods, beauty and cosmetics, and gift or novelty retailers. We’re also seeing growth in pet stores, bike shops, and jewelry retailers.

We now serve brands with over 1,000 stores. That’s been a considerable shift over the last couple of years, from a system that works for a single store to one that also meets the complex needs of large chains.

Point-of-sale capability at Shopify was originally a lightweight add-on to ecommerce. No more. Over 10% of POS users are brick-and-mortar only.

Our vision remains a POS system that’s simple enough for a single store and robust enough to support thousands. We’re making progress, but there’s a lot of work ahead.

Bandholz: How can direct-to-consumer brands use POS?

Reddy: We refer to individuals selling at pop-ups or farmers’ markets as “casual sellers.” That’s often the first offline step for online brands. We’ve seen companies such as Allbirds start small with Shopify and scale into publicly traded businesses with dozens of stores. That kind of journey — from side hustle to national brand — is something we’re proud to support.

Contactless payments — tap to pay — are widespread. We’ve integrated the technology into the entire POS experience. But selling in person is more than taking payments. Sellers need lightweight inventory tools, stock counts, and real-time syncing between online and offline. Something as simple as buying a mattress in-store and having it shipped requires more than a basic payment app.

The key is minimizing friction. A good POS platform shouldn’t force sellers to fumble through screens. It should handle all the backend complexity — inventory, fulfillment, compliance — so sellers can stay present and build relationships with customers.

Bandholz: What’s the POS experience of placing in-person orders for shipment?

Reddy: One of our most recent improvements in Shopify POS is “mixed baskets,” orders that include in-store and shipped items. Merchants previously had to create multiple orders or use workarounds. With the launch of POS 10 in April, in-store staff can process a single mixed-basket order and payment. It simplifies complex workflows.

We look for opportunities to reduce friction by monitoring how customers use POS. For example, POS 10 reduced cart-building times by 5% across the board. Some merchants with complex carts saw up to a 10% improvement in speed.

We’ve also overhauled search. Previously, it required exact text matches, which was frustrating for staff with extensive catalogs. We’ve now introduced fuzzy matching that behaves more like Google Search. One home goods retailer with 47,000 SKUs reported it was a game-changer.

We also focus on ease of use for temporary or seasonal staff. Many stores don’t have time for extensive training. One pop-up apparel brand reported that their seasonal employees were able to learn the POS system in a single shift.

Bandholz: Does Shopify POS link with Shop Pay?

Reddy: Shopify POS integrates with Shop Pay at many retailers, though not all. This integration is a key area of ongoing investment. The future of retail combines the convenience of online shopping with the tangible in-store experience. One common frustration for in-store shoppers is the time it takes to find products or wait for staff assistance, unlike the quick, one-click experience online.

Our goal is to merge online profiles and capabilities with in-store shopping. For example, customers who want items shipped to their homes often have to provide their full address at checkout — information already stored in their Shop Pay profile. Transferring that data instantly to the store system would remove friction and speed up the checkout.

Beyond payment, there’s a huge opportunity to enhance the buyer experience by linking online activity to in-store shopping. Imagine seeing items you added to your online cart just a few feet away in a physical store, ready for purchase. Connecting customers’ online intent with their in-store experience offers a significant advantage and exciting possibilities.

Bandholz: Where can people learn about POS and connect with you?

Reddy: See more at Shopify.com/pos. I’m on X and LinkedIn.

How to Survive a Million-Dollar Loss

This year I’ve sprinkled occasional “Ecommerce Conversations” episodes with real-life master classes from Beardbrand, my company. To date I’ve addressed hiringbrandingprofit-building, priority-setting, and exiting.

For this installment, I’ll share Beardbrand’s experience of losing nearly $1 million across 2023 and 2024. I’ll recap how we managed to survive our worst years in business while remaining 100% bootstrapped.

It got bad. Our cash levels dropped to where they were in year one, 2014. We were hemorrhaging money.

But we’re still here — still building and still learning. We made it through without outside funding.

Here’s what the future holds for Beardbrand. My entire audio dialog is embedded below. The transcript is condensed and edited for clarity.

Ghosted

A big portion of our loss came from Target. The company had been a seven-figure account for us for years, and we thought the relationship was solid. Every year, we pitched Target our plans. Historically, the staff there provided us with clear feedback — what worked, what didn’t, and where there was room for growth.

In 2023, Target had a sustainability initiative. We revamped our packaging, switching from glass and plastic to aluminum. It’s lighter, more recyclable, and aligns with eco-conscious goals. At the same time, we increased the size of our beard oil packaging from 1 oz. bottles to occupy more shelf space and stand out.

We committed early, produced inventory, and delivered Target’s purchase orders on time. Then silence. Nothing. After years of working with us, the staff ghosted us. No feedback, no responses. Worse, they dropped us and left us with nearly $200,000 of unpaid product.

We erred by giving Target exclusivity, which meant we weren’t selling on Amazon or Walmart. That killed our ability to move leftover inventory quickly when they dropped us. By the time we finally got on Amazon, the products had already aged out. We destroyed a large quantity that had expired.

Reserves

We’ve always run Beardbrand conservatively. That means keeping a decent amount of capital in reserve — not because we’re paranoid, but because you never know when a black swan event might hit. Having that runway lets you make clear, intentional decisions rather than panicking. It gives you time to explore solutions, test channels, and get a better night’s sleep.

Thankfully, during our stronger years, we built up a solid cushion. And that cushion is what kept us afloat during the downturn. We essentially burned through all of it. But we never dipped below zero, which meant we didn’t have to take out high-interest loans, open lines of credit, or bring in outside investors.

We did have conversations just in case. I even considered withdrawing money from my personal savings. But that’s a hard decision when things aren’t going well. When you’re in the middle of the storm, it doesn’t feel like a temporary dip — it feels like a freefall. You start wondering: Is this the bottom, or is there more pain ahead?

Writing another personal check to the business, especially after years of building wealth from it, was not something I wanted to do. And neither did my partners. We were determined to find a way forward that didn’t involve doubling down with personal capital or giving up control.

Pileup

In addition to losing Target, we experienced a series of setbacks. First, the state of Texas audited us. We cooperated fully, waited for the final numbers, and instead got slapped with a tax lien. That lien triggered Brex, our corporate credit card provider, to freeze our account, despite our perfect payment history. Thankfully, American Express stood by us and kept things moving.

Then came an ADA lawsuit, a leaked 100% off coupon code, and a $20,000 air conditioner repair at our barbershop. We also faced regulatory changes that forced us to reformulate key fragrances.

We had internal missteps, such as losing a key growth team member and coasting when we should’ve pushed harder. We focused on profitability, but the business slowly declined.

We simplified our product line to meet a manufacturer’s needs, which, in hindsight, proved to be a mistake. The lesson? Partner with vendors who value your business. You don’t want to be too small to matter, or too big to be managed. That relationship needs to be just right.

We also lowered prices to drive volume, but it backfired. Loyal customers just paid less, and those who thought we were expensive still did. Meanwhile, larger packaging reduced purchase frequency, and killing off beloved fragrances hurt loyalty. Top-line revenue got cut in half.

Furthermore, when your business shrinks, fixed costs such as office leases and payroll can become overwhelming. Our $10,000 per month lease that once felt small became a big deal.

Rebuilding

The good news? Beardbrand is alive. We’ve weathered the storm and slowly started turning things around. It hasn’t been a dramatic rebound — it’s been steady, slow progress. We have focused on improving operations, addressing inventory issues, resolving stock-outs, tightening pricing, and enhancing product quality.

We now have the right fulfillment provider, manufacturing partners, and systems in place. Instead of existential crises, we’re dealing with everyday stuff — shipping issues, ad performance, and the occasional bad product batch. That’s a massive shift. It’s not glamorous, but it’s no longer a matter of survival.

We cut costs aggressively — even eliminating $15 per month software. We reestablished healthy margins. Our customer service, returns, and product quality all depend on having room to breathe financially.

The Target fallout is behind us, the tax lien is resolved, and the ADA plaintiff dropped the bogus lawsuit. My business partner stepped out of day-to-day operations, and some team members transitioned to part-time roles, which helped improve our cash flow. We’ve managed all of this without layoffs. My team is the same one that helped us grow, and they’re still incredibly talented and dedicated.

I’ve also cut my own salary and lived off personal savings to keep things afloat. But I’m optimistic. With the business stabilizing, we can rebuild our savings and start exploring new growth opportunities again.

Momentum

Survival mode means focusing on making it through the day. Some entrepreneurs try to grow their way out of problems. For us, it started with stabilizing operations. We can finally think long-term again.

We’ve begun reinvesting in growth, supporting our paid media and Meta efforts, and expanding our creative team to produce more content and ads. More creative output means more chances to connect with customers and fuel a rebound.

We’re also rethinking channels beyond direct-to-consumer. Target was a strong retail partner for years. Retail as a channel still holds potential — perhaps it’s independent salons, boutique pharmacies, and grocery stores. The goal is to diversify. Beardbrand.com will always be our home base, but we’re a business that sells to people, not just an ecommerce brand.

It’s exciting to think ahead instead of looking back. We’re aiming for 7% profitability this year — that’s breakeven in my book. It provides us with a buffer for unpredictable events, such as lawsuits, audits, and air conditioning failures. The real goal is 17% profit — that’s when we can fund growth, hire employees, and breathe easier. Anything beyond that is the sweet spot where the stress and sacrifice start to feel worth it.

I’m excited again — for the team, for the future, and what we’re building.

MNLY’s At-Home AI Powers Men’s Health

Next-gen health and wellness is an apt description of MNLY. Luke Hartelust launched the platform in 2021, pronouncing it “manly,” and then pivoted twice while remaining focused on modern care for men.

The current version combines AI with home-based testing, diagnoses, and nutrition. Customers pay an upfront fee and a monthly subscription afterward.

In our recent conversation, Luke shared the company’s origins, growth, mistakes, and more. The entire audio of that discussion is embedded below. The transcript is condensed and edited for clarity.

Eric Bandholz: Tell us about your work.

Luke Hartelust: I’m the founder and CEO of MNLY, a men’s health and wellness platform. We use at-home diagnostics, AI, and advanced tech to create custom supplement, lifestyle, and nutrition solutions.

My background is in fitness franchising. I led multiple locations across Southern California and worked closely with male entrepreneurs and executives. That experience revealed gaps in men’s healthcare, particularly in the lack of proactive, preventative approaches.

Telehealth has improved access to care, but the model has flaws. Most providers have long waitlists — often up to 90 days for lab results and treatment plans due to backlogged consultations.

At MNLY, we streamlined the process. We removed the practitioner bottleneck and built a scientific advisory board to train a complex AI model. The result is an automated analysis and quick, personalized health recommendations, going from signup to actionable results much faster than traditional telehealth providers.

Bandholz: Walk me through the customer journey.

Hartelust: Customers start by purchasing our at-home blood sample kit — a simple finger prick using dried blood spot sampling, eliminating the friction of in-person visits. Once received, our partner lab processes samples within hours.

While awaiting results, users complete an 86-question health assessment. It focuses on seven areas: concentration, confidence, stamina, mood, sleep, libido, and recovery.

We combine lab and assessment data — roughly 100 data points per user — to generate a clean, easy-to-understand health dashboard. It explains results and provides reference ranges, visuals, and comparison metrics. An overall health score benchmarks the data.

Next, our AI builds a personalized health plan, including nutrition suggestions based on biomarkers and lifestyle hacks such as breathwork and even testicular cooling for hormone support.

Finally, we formulate a custom dietary supplement. Based on the user’s data, our AI prescribes specific nutrients and doses. We then manufacture the supplement and ship every 30 days. It’s fully automated.

Bandholz: What does it cost customers?

Hartelust: The initial lab kit is $199. Supplements are $249 per month.

We recommend retesting with new blood samples every three to five months. Each time new bloodwork is submitted, our system updates all biomarkers, adjusts supplement dosages, and revises the health plan. Users experience clear visual progress, including changes to their overall health score.

We’ve just completed our first year in business. It’s our third iteration under the MNLY brand. We launched in 2021 as a nutritional subscription box provider, with two attempts.

A year ago, with this version, we didn’t prioritize retention. Our small team focused on product development, and we lacked an automated customer journey to guide and remind users about retesting. We started those reminders 90 days ago.

From an ecommerce perspective, not building that journey sooner was one of our biggest missteps. Many customers experienced strong results in the first six weeks — improved libido, mood, sleep, recovery, and focus — but when those effects plateaued, some dropped off around the five- or six-month mark. Even though biological improvements continued, users weren’t always aware without updated data. That’s why consistent testing and communication are now central to our retention strategy.

Bandholz: What’s your growth strategy?

Hartelust: As a startup raising capital in a tough market, I needed a strategic partner to expand our reach. I secured a deal last year with Hyrox, an indoor fitness competition, as its exclusive U.S. men’s health partner. I landed the deal with just a minimal viable product and a pitch deck, right before Hydrox’s U.S. expansion took off.

The company’s events grew in a year from 2,000 athletes to 14,000, and its audience — 50,000 social followers, 30,000 email subscribers, and 200 gym partners — aligned perfectly with our brand. We paid for the sponsorship, but it gave us massive exposure, credibility, and direct access to our core demographic.

We could have taken out, say, $100,000 in Meta Ads. That same $100,000 in a strategic Hyrox sponsorship gets us brand equity, athletes, investors, and a much lower acquisition cost — around $200 per customer, far better than we could achieve with ads alone.

Bandholz: How do you convert Hyrox athletes?

Hartelust: A presence on-site at the competitions is our most effective strategy. We recently wrapped an eight-month national tour where we set up our brand installation inside each venue. Our core leadership team was there to bring deep product knowledge, passion, and real connection.

The sponsorship provided us with access to email lists and social media audiences. Before the competition, we emailed attendees with offers, a discount code, and booth details. We reminded them of the promotion during the event and shared recaps after. We encouraged the participants to show the code at the booth for a lower rate.

Bandholz: How did you raise the capital to fund such a complex launch?

Hartelust: I spent the first six years of my career building wellness and fitness studios and nurturing strategic relationships. When we sold the company in 2021 for several million dollars, I reinvested some capital to start MNLY. But, again, before our current model, MNLY failed twice as a subscription box concept. I lost a lot on those early versions before pivoting to what we have now.

Launching this model required more than just personal funds, so I began raising a true pre-seed round about 18 months ago. I had raised capital before, but never for a startup. I tapped every possible connection — friends, family, clients — and hired a virtual assistant for cold outreach. One of our venture capital partners shared a valuable investor database. I ended up doing roughly 250 pitches and raised just under $800,000.

This round focused on micro angels rather than traditional VCs. Many brands rely heavily on Meta ads and lack a real connection. We leveraged our Hyrox community and offered equity to athlete ambassadors, which provided us with additional operational capital. That blend of brand, relationships, and community has fueled our growth.

Bandholz: Where can people support you?

Hartelust: Our website is getMNLY.com. We’re @getMNLY on Instagram and Facebook. I’m on LinkedIn.